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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 01:04 PM
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Lifting Truck Slightly

Ok I have a Brother that has a 2012 F-150 as well and he wants to retain stock rake but wants to lift it about 2".

He asked me to help since Ive dont alot with my Ford. but I never done this.

Hes WAS think 2: spacers in the Front and a 2" lift Block in the back. But doesnt the block get replaced so if you were to buy a 2" lift block you wont actually get 2" of lift as you have to take stock one out????????

I told him from what ive read and done you dont get a true 2" of lift. he said he would just put the 2" lift block on top of the original and I said I dont think it works that way as your new Longer U bolts may not fit and allow you to do that.

I dont think you can just STACK LIFT BLOCKS so to speak. but to attain this

what size block would he use in the back to get a true 2" of lift? I assume measure the stock block and add 2 to that to get the lift block you would need. unless anyone knows the stock block height????

Looked for help. Im trying to talk him into a 3" suspension lift. but he wants to only go 1/.5 to 2" higher.... I said hey whats an inch to do it right.

assistance needed before he starts buying parts.

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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 09:51 PM
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You can stack blocks, though the internet usually says no. If you're stacking a couple of small blocks, you'll probably never have a problem. Stacking big blocks is a bad idea. I believe the stock block height is 1-1/4" if we're talking about a 4x4.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 10:22 PM
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I put 2'' lift spacers on the front coil overs and swapped the stock rear blocks to 3'' to give it some lift while keeping a rake. Here is how it looks with the stock 675/65R18 tires and wheels.
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 12:56 AM
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I used the Rancho quickLIFT fronts to get about 2" in the front which leveled the truck. I then installed the RAS in the back and used it to get about an inch of lift in the back. Truck has a slight rake, but sits very nicely. I too didn't want a full lift, just a little more aggressive than stock. The goal was to not have to run 35's.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 07:25 AM
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yes sorry its a 4x4... yes. ok so maybe get 2 smaller block lifts to stack vs 1 3" or something. ok.
I will advise him of all your ideas...thanks.

quck question on suspension lifts. Ive been looking and watch suspension lifts and I dont get why you swap out the upper control arm. I understand its about geometry but I dont see it looking any different so what does the new control arm do? why?

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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 07:44 AM
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now hes thinking 3" front spacers and then a 4" or 2 -1.5" blocks in rear to its all raised the same.

Sounds like he may need to get longer U bolts if doing 2 1.5" spacers blocks

I again say suspension lift and be done.

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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 10:11 AM
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yes sorry its a 4x4... yes. ok so maybe get 2 smaller block lifts to stack vs 1 3" or something. ok.
I will advise him of all your ideas...thanks.

quck question on suspension lifts. Ive been looking and watch suspension lifts and I dont get why you swap out the upper control arm. I understand its about geometry but I dont see it looking any different so what does the new control arm do? why?

Thanks
You don't have to swap out the upper control arms. With a lift you get lifted knuckles and strut spacers. The only reason to replace the upper control arm is if you want to upgrade them. The only other reason people replace them is so they can run a 3" level on the front without doing a full lift.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tractorboy924
now hes thinking 3" front spacers and then a 4" or 2 -1.5" blocks in rear to its all raised the same.

Sounds like he may need to get longer U bolts if doing 2 1.5" spacers blocks

I again say suspension lift and be done.

Thanks
You're not gonna want 3" spacers in the front or say goodbye to the upper ball joints and CV shafts. It sounds like he wants a lift but doesn't want a lift. Either get a 2" leveling kit or a 4" lift. There's no good in between.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 10:37 AM
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ok so it sounds like the Suspension lifts (IN BETWEEN) dont adjust geometry back to original either just beefier upper control arms. ok that all makes sense.

and if goes with a level kit don't go beyond say 2" level kit up front to keep from not getting too squirly with it and killing upper ball joints?

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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 12:29 PM
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I wouldn't go beyond 2 1/2" level. Any more, you're asking for trouble.
I used F150 Lifts Boss Coil overs, now called HaloLifts, at +/- 2 1/4-2 1/2 setting, along with a 3" block in the rear. I too wanted to maintain some rake, and with the block, I gained 1 3/4" over stock. So it's sitting with pretty much the factory rake.
Stacking blocks is never a good idea, especially trying to go 3". Many people do it, many don't, I'm one that won't. I try to find a photo.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 12:36 PM
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Johnday. Looking good. thats a good look. what size tires and rims you running?

He wants to run stock 17' with a big more aggressive offroad tire.

Thank you. This is what Im strongly suggesting to him as well.

he started to talk about body lifts and I shut him down. NO BODY lifts!

Do it right or don't do it.

So got that out of his head!!!!

He was thinking of going this your way then doing like a 1.5" body lift but could not find one for that year truck so I got it out of his head now....!

 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 03:20 PM
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I'm not a fan of body lifts either. Thankfully, I've only seen 1 or 2 150's with one, reminds me of a GM truck that likes to showoff the framerails.
Thanks for the compliment! Yes, I've done pretty much what he's wanting. Those are OEM 9X17 Raptor wheels, +34 offset, with 315/70/17 BFG KO2's. Same thing the 12th gen Raptors had on them. Zero rubbing, and zero trimming.
Take a look in my album for more photos if you'd like.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 03:23 PM
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will do as the stance is NICE... perfect...exactly what hes looking for. NOw with all this I think I want to do to mine now too.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 06:20 PM
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will do as the stance is NICE... perfect...exactly what hes looking for. NOw with all this I think I want to do to mine now too.
LOL, good luck!!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by johnday
I'm not a fan of body lifts either. Thankfully, I've only seen 1 or 2 150's with one, reminds me of a GM truck that likes to showoff the framerails.
Thanks for the compliment! Yes, I've done pretty much what he's wanting. Those are OEM 9X17 Raptor wheels, +34 offset, with 315/70/17 BFG KO2's. Same thing the 12th gen Raptors had on them. Zero rubbing, and zero trimming.
Take a look in my album for more photos if you'd like.
Does the front end of your truck sit higher than the rear? Maybe it's just the angle.
 
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