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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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I have a 390 with a C6 tranny and a Holley 670cfm carb which I believe is too big for my motor and may be part of my problem but anyway, what is too hot for my truck to be running and what is normal? The engine was built from a 360 and has had some slight mods like a bigger lift and a valve job with a high volume oil pump but not far from stock. Engine does not have a noticeable lope. I have a new 3 core radiator and run a 180 thermostat with a 50/50 mixture. The fan is one of those five blade plastic super fans that is really supposed to pull the air. The only thing I am missing is a fan shroud. Could it make that much difference in temp? Engine gets up to about 220 to 230 idling in the driveway. Do not know how it does while driving as the truck is not yet road worthy. Sorry to be so lengthy. Thanks to all for help.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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What did you measure the temp with ?

Don' t rely on the original guage.

Short point, The shroud will help tremendously.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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I am using an after market gauge that tells me the volts, water temp by number, and oil pressure. Guess I will have to try and find a shroud.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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Yes you need a shroud, there is no air going through the rad and the fan is just flapping around there. Also a rebuilt motor will generate a lot of heat while it's breaking in, don't overheat it.

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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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You could have a slight vacuum leak or it could be jetted lean, If your idle is set too low the water pump cant push enough water thru the rad to properly cool it. 230 is plenty warm especally for a fresh motor . The carb is just about perfect for a 390, I run a 750 on mine.....d44hd
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 12:48 AM
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How hot?!!

My rule of thumb is this, if the coolant is staying in and not boiling over then you really don't have a heating problem.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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How hot?!!

Ok, but no one is telling me how hot? I appreciate the help, don't get me wrong but, while I am running this thing breaking it in or for whatever reason, at what temp should I start getting concerned? What do your trucks run at normally? Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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n2music,

I did a search on hotrodders.com as I was having a similiar problem with my landcruiser. The word there is no hotter than 220. A bad rad cap or a worn timing chain can also cause overheating. My problem started with a bad fuel pump causing my carb accelerator pump to go bad which caused a lean cond. which caused the overheating.
 

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Ok, thanks.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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How hot?!!

Oh, how hot was the question, sorry missed that.

With everything working right your truck should idle no hotter than 200* with a 180* stat.

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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How hot?!!

What is your folks opinion of the flex fans? I was going to install one but after doing some research I'm finding a lot of negative opinions.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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The proper way to figure carb size is by the formula CFM= CID x RPM x VE divided by 3456. So 390 cid x 5500 rpm x 1.05 (105% volumetric efficiency) divided by 3456 = 651.69 cfm.

Sorry should have answered your question 180 to 200 degrees....

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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So is the extra 20cfm going to affect me much or do I need to scale down?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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oh yeah, I removed carb and rebuilt this evening. Found one of the main metering jet holes had something black like a piece of sponge or something clogging the hole. A few of the gaskets needed replacing and gave the carg a good cleaning with some carb cleaner. Hopefully this will solve my backfire problems and maybe take care of some of the heating problems. Man at auto parts store said I should try running without thermostat and see if it gets hot. If it doesn't, he said old thermostat probably works, just doesn't open properly or all the way. Thanks for everyones input.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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My Ford isn't running yet, but i will most likely run it without a thermostat. Mine doesn't have a shroud, I don't know if it came factory without one of one of the previous owners took it off. I have only had it 3 days .
 
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