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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 06:54 PM
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For you that have done your own paint jobs, how much base/clearcoat does it take to paint a 1950 F1 inside and out including engine bay one color?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 07:54 PM
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Depending on color some , especially reds can be very poor hiding ( your paint supplier should be able to tell you as it is usually noted on the mix formula ) but I would never get any less than a gallon of basecoat . Waterboure tends to cover much better .
 
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 08:40 PM
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In my limited experience... another factor is what type of paint gun you are using... a siphon feed gun uses a lot more paint than a gravity feed gun... the siphon feed gun creates a lot more overspray and 'fog'...

I have been told that you will use up to 30% less paint with a gravity feed gun, and after using both, I believe it...

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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 09:15 PM
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The color is going to be PPG hugger orange and I will be using a hvlp gravity feed gun. The store said I would probably need at least 1 1/2 gallons of color. At $519 a gallon, did not want to buy more than needed. Clear will run between $325 to $500 a gallon depending on quality.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 09:34 PM
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I know it is tempting to save on cost. In my (novice) experience, it doesn't hurt to have extra just in case you have to re-shoot a panel later, forget to shoot something the first time, or for touch-up. With the base it is also better to have it all mixed at the same time. I had to go back and get an extra quart and it came out slightly darker even though they used the same paint code. Re-shooting the whole vehicle again would be a significantly more expensive than having a bit more than you need.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 09:45 PM
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I know that everyone want's to keep costs down but paint isn't the place IMHO . If you are getting it mixed locally then you can always go back for more . Door jams and inside will use more than big surfaces . I would get a gallon mixed and after doing your insides you will have a good idea of how much more you need . As far as I know they will only mix 1 gallon max at a time and there can be subtle differences so I always like to be sure I have more than enough for the exterior and mix it all together to assure match . The clear prices seem quite high as does the paint unless its waterbourne .
 
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 09:49 PM
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The prices are what my closest PPG dealer quoted me for the deltron.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 09:56 PM
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Definitely appears to be full retail .
 
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 10:44 PM
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It used to be that House of Kolor was the pricey paint...now it's PPG that's over the top. I would check the pricing on HOK before committing to PPG...and there are many outlets online that carry HOK.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 07:13 AM
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I can speak from experience in that my 50 was partially painted a few years ago from a Sherwin williams m1722 vermillion gallon. My painter is doing the bed and some fenders now. He's going to run out and will need at least another qt. Since it's been so long we are going through test sprays to get a match since he no longer has his mixing equip. We will get it right but it would've made sense to mix up 2 gallons, mix them together and then back into the cans. I would order no less than 1 1/2 gallons and probably get 2 just in case something needs redone down the road
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bhalemail
I can speak from experience in that my 50 was partially painted a few years ago from a Sherwin williams m1722 vermillion gallon. My painter is doing the bed and some fenders now. He's going to run out and will need at least another qt. Since it's been so long we are going through test sprays to get a match since he no longer has his mixing equip. We will get it right but it would've made sense to mix up 2 gallons, mix them together and then back into the cans. I would order no less than 1 1/2 gallons and probably get 2 just in case something needs redone down the road
Boxing is always a good idea
I used two gal of base on my 49 and have some extra but I'll use most of it on other stuff/accessories for the truck
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 08:32 AM
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I did my 1956 F500 in Eastwood's "Jaded Green" Single Stage Urethane. I used Eastwood's High Build Self Etching Primer. I used a Convetional spray gun that wasn't a HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure) so I definitely used a good 20% more (or more) liquid than if I shot the paint with the HVLP.

Every piece of sheet metal got two coats of primer and two coats of paint including the frame. I needed two gallons of each and had a little less than half a gallon left over.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:16 AM
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Thank you for your replies. I know this is a question that there is no simple answer for. This is a project that my wife does not want me to go cheap on, I was just trying to get as close as possible, with some left over, but not $1,000 worth that may or may not get used.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 12:09 PM
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I think that it all depends upon how many mistakes you make, the primer color and the type of color coat paint that you are using. Also of course how many coats you are laying down.

I am a novice painter and am using Hot Rod Flatz Hot Rod Red from TCPGlobal with an HVLP paint gun. I'm using their recommended mix of 4-1-1 and with 1 ½ quarts I was able to cover the cab inside and out and the front half of the box. So I would estimate that a gallon should do the whole truck. I buy their kits which come with hardener and reducer. If you need more TCPGlobal ships quickly and you can buy another quart kit and get it quickly. If you want a gloss finish they sell that too or you can shoot a high gloss clearcoat over this afterwards. This is nice paint and goes on very easily with good coverage.

 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 05:40 PM
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We will get it right but it would've made sense to mix up 2 gallons, mix them together and then back into the cans. I would order no less than 1 1/2 gallons and probably get 2 just in case something needs redone down the road
Ditto on Bill's advise. Nothing worse than running out of paint before you are done and not having the new quart match properly. There is a lot of metal to be painted if you are doing a complete truck. The bed alone (inside and out) is about the same amount as a standard car.
 
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