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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 06:03 PM
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I think the ol boy meant well but geez that GM could have been a fatal. It didn't tear though......um ok.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 07:34 PM
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Ford may want to reconsider the adhesive they're using too. The aluminum skin doesn't bond very well to the sub structure.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fVSdA1rYKE


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why no videos of the plastic bumpers that are on 80% of vehicles on the road? I bet that's just as strong? Lol
 
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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Troy Buenger
Military Grade....


Ford may want to reconsider the adhesive they're using too. The aluminum skin doesn't bond very well to the sub structure.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fVSdA1rYKE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BuAs3FKnzY
" these folks here fell asleep and went over the mountain "???? Lol and he's pointing out "rips" in the body panels? I'm not following the point of the video.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Troy Buenger
Military Grade....


Ford may want to reconsider the adhesive they're using too. The aluminum skin doesn't bond very well to the sub structure.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fVSdA1rYKE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BuAs3FKnzY
i cant begin to explain how dumb that guy in the video sounds. He must be joking or being sarcastic right?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Troy Buenger
Military Grade....


Ford may want to reconsider the adhesive they're using too. The aluminum skin doesn't bond very well to the sub structure.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fVSdA1rYKE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BuAs3FKnzY







Personally, I could care the least if the body tears or not as I never want to see it again after a wreck like that. I just want to see my family climb out unhurt. He says that the Ford occupants were probably okay.
This guy tells on himself at the end. He said that he has to invest in special tools and training to work on aluminum. He dislikes it for that reason.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 12:19 AM
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Note to self: Never move to California!
Check...and check.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 07:33 AM
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Alum: As for working with Alum its not a real big deal especially today with modern Alum. I owned a Alum car, '59 MGA racing model. Trust me that Alum was soft and working it could lead real quick to thinning so you did need to know how to work SOFT metal. I peel the door off the thing and got it fixed at a local body shop for $25 bucks over his rate for the job. IIRC he charged $125 to repair and rehang the door, normally he got about a $100 bucks.

Welding: I had a Alum weld break lose on my '64 Corvette and stopped in at a shop on a trip in some little town in East Texas back in '64. The guy took the component off, dried it, cleaned it and welded it. That weld held at least until I told the car in 68 with over 100k mi on it.

Welding Alum is not a big deal, My Miller 211 MIG and a Alum gun, weld all day and if the clean room requirement is a shop floor you have swept in the past week then that is good enough. Clean room, like exotic welding and surgeon level skills is 100% BS coming from body men that are nothing but hacks and the repair looks worse than the damage you brought in. And always watch out for the 'don't take it to a spray wash' for 60 days as the paint needs time to properly adhere and age'! Yea and read the fine print on the paperwork that states that all body and paint work is warrantied for 30 days. That is so when you take to a spray wash, the paint peels off and now you have no comeback, out of warranty.

I had cut a lower limb on this branch so my '15 F350 could back my trailer in, but '15 clearing and '17 clearing are not one in the same.



The culprit, of course could not see it in the camera, rear view mirror or side mirror. I have since chainsawed that **** off and moved the pile of wood that was on the right side which made me move further to the left that I usually would when backing in.

 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 07:55 AM
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Glad I'm not the only one who does things like that.
I have a friend who works at Ford as a body man. They have yet to add a separate room onto the body shop for repairing the aluminum trucks. The owner refuses to do it (as Ford requires) which means we have no repair facility in our area for aluminum bodies. They told me that I'll have to go to the Washington D.C. area. (100 miles away)
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RJC2
Glad I'm not the only one who does things like that.
I have a friend who works at Ford as a body man. They have yet to add a separate room onto the body shop for repairing the aluminum trucks. The owner refuses to do it (as Ford requires) which means we have no repair facility in our area for aluminum bodies. They told me that I'll have to go to the Washington D.C. area. (100 miles away)
Fact is if I had NEVER cut off the lower limb it would have never happened because it would have hung down far enough that it would have been seen in all the mirrors. And I still could have got my trailer back in there more than far enough...
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Fact is if I had NEVER cut off the lower limb it would have never happened because it would have hung down far enough that it would have been seen in all the mirrors. And I still could have got my trailer back in there more than far enough...
Hind sight is 20/20. I think that's a line in a country song! Sorry for the mishap, hope you get it repaired quickly.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 08:34 AM
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Hind sight is 20/20. I think that's a line in a country song! Sorry for the mishap, hope you get it repaired quickly.
AIN'T that the TRUTH!

If I could do it all over again, hindsight tells me:

1st wife...just say NO!

and the list could go on and on...
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 08:43 AM
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Note to self: Never move to California!
Wouldn't be to quick to criticize unless you've checked your state law. It has pluses and minuses. If your buying a used car it's good. If selling maybe not. Our insurance Co. guarantees the repairs for the life of the vehicle which is a selling point even with the Car Fax report.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Alum: As for working with Alum its not a real big deal especially today with modern Alum. I owned a Alum car, '59 MGA racing model. Trust me that Alum was soft and working it could lead real quick to thinning so you did need to know how to work SOFT metal. I peel the door off the thing and got it fixed at a local body shop for $25 bucks over his rate for the job. IIRC he charged $125 to repair and rehang the door, normally he got about a $100 bucks.

Welding: I had a Alum weld break lose on my '64 Corvette and stopped in at a shop on a trip in some little town in East Texas back in '64. The guy took the component off, dried it, cleaned it and welded it. That weld held at least until I told the car in 68 with over 100k mi on it.

Welding Alum is not a big deal, My Miller 211 MIG and a Alum gun, weld all day and if the clean room requirement is a shop floor you have swept in the past week then that is good enough. Clean room, like exotic welding and surgeon level skills is 100% BS coming from body men that are nothing but hacks and the repair looks worse than the damage you brought in.
the comments I read about aluminum repair needing a clean room always has me scratching my head, go to any major aircraft manufacturing company they dont weld in a clean room, as long as they use tig or mig welders and the parts are cleaned to begin with, the gas makes the clean enviroment. All bonding is done in a clean room so the metal and adhesives stay clean. I used to work for Lockheed, we always welded aluminum in the same booth as steel, just got swept first, and as for specialized tools? No always used the same wrenches, screwdrivers, etc as with every othe material except titanium, for that you need "bare" tools, no cad or chrome plating. And absolutey no pencils to mark your holes, titanium aill crack at the pencil mark. I could see my dad repair your cab easily, sheet metal hamners and buccking bars to pound out the damage as smooth as he could, the if is weldable aluminum, weld the seam, then hed use a Jb weld type of epoxy but it is aluminum not steel, to smooth it. And the paint it. It would look good as new. It it couldnt be welded hed make an aluminum doubler to flush rivet on the inside the jb weld and paint. He was a sheetmetal man for 50 years at Lockheed.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 01:09 PM
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Wouldn't be to quick to criticize unless you've checked your state law. It has pluses and minuses. If your buying a used car it's good. If selling maybe not. Our insurance Co. guarantees the repairs for the life of the vehicle which is a selling point even with the Car Fax report.
There is nothing positive about living in California.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 01:37 PM
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There is nothing positive about living in California.
T man, I have been all over Ca, in fact I have driven every state/federal road between LA/Sacramento/Pacific to the Eastern border (took almost 6 mo) and the entire length of PCH up and down. I am also the luckiest guy as every day I was in Ca I was on an expense acct. There truly is some great beauty out there but your right outside of that there is little positive about it...
 
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