87 F-150 Clutch Master Pushrod Help!
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87 F-150 Clutch Master Pushrod Help!
87 302 F150 RWD
I've been dealing with clutch release issues...still
I seemed to have fixed it by extending the clutch master cyl. pushrod all the way out. I thought I had finally found closure. I was wrong. After about 100 miles of driving, the 2 pieces snapped, as I only had it grabbing by a few threads, and the jam nut. There was not enough thread engagement to keep a structurally secure rod. I was about 100 miles away from home when this happened, and luckily the threads were in ok enough condition to thread it back on to get me home. Problem is, the threads on the master cylinder end are bent, see pic.
Enjoy my artistic masterpiece. Because of this, the rod is no longer straight, the threads are barely passable, and the "eye" that sits on the pedal bracket **** thing with the bushing, does not go on straight, and it works its way off over time. When I was stranded, I had to zip tie the pushrod in place to get me home.
What I need to know:
-are there any known clutch pushrods for these trucks that are longer than average, so I can have the length I need, with proper thread engagement? I have a new master on there, and it came with a new pushrod, that happened to be shorter than the one that was on the truck. It was Exedy brand. What brand is the longest?
-How do I get the male end, (the master cylinder end) of the pushrod out? When I put it in, I just slipped it in the boot of the master and it was held in there with the force of the clutch pedal, at least I think... I have no idea how to pull it out to replace it.
Before anyone says anything, I did do the firewall plate install. The master and slave are new. When the pushrod is properly extended, the gears shift like butter, which is a drastic difference from what I was dealing with before.
This is the final step in me having my truck where I want it to be. Thanks for any and all help!
I've been dealing with clutch release issues...still
I seemed to have fixed it by extending the clutch master cyl. pushrod all the way out. I thought I had finally found closure. I was wrong. After about 100 miles of driving, the 2 pieces snapped, as I only had it grabbing by a few threads, and the jam nut. There was not enough thread engagement to keep a structurally secure rod. I was about 100 miles away from home when this happened, and luckily the threads were in ok enough condition to thread it back on to get me home. Problem is, the threads on the master cylinder end are bent, see pic.
Enjoy my artistic masterpiece. Because of this, the rod is no longer straight, the threads are barely passable, and the "eye" that sits on the pedal bracket **** thing with the bushing, does not go on straight, and it works its way off over time. When I was stranded, I had to zip tie the pushrod in place to get me home.
What I need to know:
-are there any known clutch pushrods for these trucks that are longer than average, so I can have the length I need, with proper thread engagement? I have a new master on there, and it came with a new pushrod, that happened to be shorter than the one that was on the truck. It was Exedy brand. What brand is the longest?
-How do I get the male end, (the master cylinder end) of the pushrod out? When I put it in, I just slipped it in the boot of the master and it was held in there with the force of the clutch pedal, at least I think... I have no idea how to pull it out to replace it.
Before anyone says anything, I did do the firewall plate install. The master and slave are new. When the pushrod is properly extended, the gears shift like butter, which is a drastic difference from what I was dealing with before.
This is the final step in me having my truck where I want it to be. Thanks for any and all help!
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Adjustable pushrod - RockAuto - RockAuto - If it's too short, you can re-clock the arm that goes between the pedal shaft and the pushrod.
The pushrod "snaps" into the master cylinder with a clip that works sorta like a fuel line quick-release. You may be able to put a one or two small screwdrivers in there on either side of what's left of the rod, and just fiddle with them while pulling on the rod, and it should eventually pop out. Hard to explain exactly, just something you have to... fiddle with.
The pushrod "snaps" into the master cylinder with a clip that works sorta like a fuel line quick-release. You may be able to put a one or two small screwdrivers in there on either side of what's left of the rod, and just fiddle with them while pulling on the rod, and it should eventually pop out. Hard to explain exactly, just something you have to... fiddle with.
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Adjustable pushrod - RockAuto - RockAuto - If it's too short, you can re-clock the arm that goes between the pedal shaft and the pushrod.
The pushrod "snaps" into the master cylinder with a clip that works sorta like a fuel line quick-release. You may be able to put a one or two small screwdrivers in there on either side of what's left of the rod, and just fiddle with them while pulling on the rod, and it should eventually pop out. Hard to explain exactly, just something you have to... fiddle with.
The pushrod "snaps" into the master cylinder with a clip that works sorta like a fuel line quick-release. You may be able to put a one or two small screwdrivers in there on either side of what's left of the rod, and just fiddle with them while pulling on the rod, and it should eventually pop out. Hard to explain exactly, just something you have to... fiddle with.
What do you mean by reclock it? I know what reclocking is, however which piece exactly gets adjusted?
Thanks again madpogue
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The pedal box shaft is splined on the end. So you can remove the arm from the shaft and rotate it one notch on the splines and reattach it. To remove it, mark the position, then LOOSEN the nut, then pry behind it with TWO small pry bars or screwdrivers. It's TIGHT on the splines, which is why you want to keep the nut on loose, so the arm doesn't go flying when it gets free from the splines. THEN remove the nut and slip the arm off.
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I just ordered a part to make the need of the pushrod into a heim joint. Should work pretty well but my problem is the clutch and brake pedal assembly bracket. When I push the clutch in it moves the bracket instead of pushing in the pushrod. Take a look under the removable panel under your dash and look up at the aluminum bracketry and make sure it's not cracked or broken like mine
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Master cylinder pushrod end
I have a 1988 F 450, w/ Manual trans. I replaced the master cylinder & slave about a yr ago.
The Master cylinder came with a NEW push rod and the plastic spline bushing for the eye of the pushrod. the bushing now is worn and the clutch pedal travels quite a bit. I looked at the pushrod rod end and there is definitely wear. You posted a help to another person, about a Hyme Joint for aftermarket replacement of the spline bushing. I watched a couple utube videos on this replacement. However I'm finding a real difficulty in finding a Hyme Joint that is shown in the Utube. CAn you tell me where I can find one of these Hyme joints. Ebay offers them but none match the utube. Kris
The Master cylinder came with a NEW push rod and the plastic spline bushing for the eye of the pushrod. the bushing now is worn and the clutch pedal travels quite a bit. I looked at the pushrod rod end and there is definitely wear. You posted a help to another person, about a Hyme Joint for aftermarket replacement of the spline bushing. I watched a couple utube videos on this replacement. However I'm finding a real difficulty in finding a Hyme Joint that is shown in the Utube. CAn you tell me where I can find one of these Hyme joints. Ebay offers them but none match the utube. Kris
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I have a 1988 F 450, w/ Manual trans. I replaced the master cylinder & slave about a yr ago.
The Master cylinder came with a NEW push rod and the plastic spline bushing for the eye of the pushrod. the bushing now is worn and the clutch pedal travels quite a bit. I looked at the pushrod rod end and there is definitely wear. You posted a help to another person, about a Hyme Joint for aftermarket replacement of the spline bushing. I watched a couple utube videos on this replacement. However I'm finding a real difficulty in finding a Hyme Joint that is shown in the Utube. CAn you tell me where I can find one of these Hyme joints. Ebay offers them but none match the utube. Kris
The Master cylinder came with a NEW push rod and the plastic spline bushing for the eye of the pushrod. the bushing now is worn and the clutch pedal travels quite a bit. I looked at the pushrod rod end and there is definitely wear. You posted a help to another person, about a Hyme Joint for aftermarket replacement of the spline bushing. I watched a couple utube videos on this replacement. However I'm finding a real difficulty in finding a Hyme Joint that is shown in the Utube. CAn you tell me where I can find one of these Hyme joints. Ebay offers them but none match the utube. Kris
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Master cylinder pushrod end
Thank you. Did you have any problems in installing this HEIM joint? As I said I watched the video several times. the only question I have is indexing the clutch pedal linkage bar, before removal, so that it can be re-installed in the exact relationship it was removed. The video suggests installing the NEw push rod end, i.e. HEIM joint, and tightening, connecting to the clutch pedal linkage bar to the HEIM joint, then reinstalling the clutch linkage bar back on the splines of the bolt for the linkage bar.
thanks for your help. Kris
thanks for your help. Kris
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Thank you. Did you have any problems in installing this HEIM joint? As I said I watched the video several times. the only question I have is indexing the clutch pedal linkage bar, before removal, so that it can be re-installed in the exact relationship it was removed. The video suggests installing the NEw push rod end, i.e. HEIM joint, and tightening, connecting to the clutch pedal linkage bar to the HEIM joint, then reinstalling the clutch linkage bar back on the splines of the bolt for the linkage bar.
thanks for your help. Kris
thanks for your help. Kris
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Master cylinder pushrod end
Yes your pushrod was much worse than mine.
Thank you for the information on the Clutch pedal linkage bar, how difficult it was to come off, your attempts to remove it, and your fix. This was all my concern, from the video it looked much simpler. Plus there isn't a whole lot of room to get a pry bar up in there.
What did you do about indexing the clutch pedal linkage bar before removing it? Kris
Thank you for the information on the Clutch pedal linkage bar, how difficult it was to come off, your attempts to remove it, and your fix. This was all my concern, from the video it looked much simpler. Plus there isn't a whole lot of room to get a pry bar up in there.
What did you do about indexing the clutch pedal linkage bar before removing it? Kris
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Yes your pushrod was much worse than mine.
Thank you for the information on the Clutch pedal linkage bar, how difficult it was to come off, your attempts to remove it, and your fix. This was all my concern, from the video it looked much simpler. Plus there isn't a whole lot of room to get a pry bar up in there.
What did you do about indexing the clutch pedal linkage bar before removing it? Kris
Thank you for the information on the Clutch pedal linkage bar, how difficult it was to come off, your attempts to remove it, and your fix. This was all my concern, from the video it looked much simpler. Plus there isn't a whole lot of room to get a pry bar up in there.
What did you do about indexing the clutch pedal linkage bar before removing it? Kris
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