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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 03:46 PM
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hi guys. I have a 2017 f350 with about 30,000 miles. Its Father's Day and I'm headed back to my family from Idaho. My low def warning came on so I stopped and put 2 1/2 gallons in. The gauge came up after a while but after a while the warnings still came up and I noticed the gauge dropping. No leaks or holes. Long story short it finally cut me back to 50 mph (even after I filled it full) and now it's saying it will soon go to idle. I have a hundred miles to go. How many miles can I run it?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 05:51 PM
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7.4 gallons tank

Not sure exactly why its happening but... 2017 now has a DEF tank capacity of 7.4 instead of 5 gallons so maybe 2.5 gallons refill wasn't enough to get you where you were going.
 

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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 06:34 PM
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Safety first?

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hi guys. I have a 2017 f350 with about 30,000 miles. Its Father's Day and I'm headed back to my family from Idaho. My low def warning came on so I stopped and put 2 1/2 gallons in. The gauge came up after a while but after a while the warnings still came up and I noticed the gauge dropping. No leaks or holes. Long story short it finally cut me back to 50 mph (even after I filled it full) and now it's saying it will soon go to idle. I have a hundred miles to go. How many miles can I run it?
Brilliant design! Strand or place occupants of trucks in unsafe conditions, all because of DEF fluid! What happened to Safety first?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 06:36 PM
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Brilliant design! Strand or place occupants of trucks in unsafe conditions, all because of DEF fluid! What happened to Safety first?
What happened to safety first? THE EPA!
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 06:45 PM
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If your new one is like my last 2014 was, I had to fill it close to full to reset the stupid def sensor. I almost got stranded in limp mode over santiam pass because of the same issue.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 10:59 PM
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Well, I got her home. I tell you what, if my wife had been driving that truck in the winter or in a bad area and gotten stranded like that, someone would be getting their *ss whooped right now! What an absolutely unsafe bullshi* design, to potentially leave someone stranded like that all so some environmentalists wack job can pat himself on the back. I understand the need for clean air but it shouldn't compromise safety. I let the thing sit for an hour and restarted, no go. Filled it completely full (I'd already dumped another 2 1/2 gallons in 100 miles earlier) let it sit for an hour, no go. Was getting back in the truck to call some poor tow truck driver out on Father's Day and started it 1 more time. Gauge bounced around a bit then reset. Ran fine the rest of the way home. Just a heads up, don't let your tanks get down to the warning stage. Oddly enough, it started warning me at just under a quarter tank
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 11:37 PM
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Exact same thing happened to my friend in their 2016 F-350 DRW. When warning came on they were towing a trailer with 4 horses in it. Gave low DEF warning, he added 2.5 gallons. He was able to get home. A few days later it went into limp mode and he said it took him 30 minutes to get from his house to the neighborhood front gate, a 5 mile trip. He had it towed to dealer and dealer claimed he got bad gas or bad DEF. They sent gas and DEF out to be tested and it came back fine.

He warned me not to let the DEF get to low warning notification. I now display the DEF level screen as the optional display. I added 2.5 gallons and it went from 1/4 to 5/8. 2 days ago I added another 2.5 gallons of DEF and it reads full. I took a 250 mile trip and no problem.

He also recommended I carry a OBDII tool to clear codes.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:31 AM
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I just completed a long tow and got the message twice. Once I ran it down inside of 100 miles and then put two boxes of Blue DEF from O'Reilys. It immediately reset and let me go on my way. The other time I just got DEF at the pump which is 1000 times more convenient. No drama like what you described.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
I just completed a long tow and got the message twice. Once I ran it down inside of 100 miles and then put two boxes of Blue DEF from O'Reilys. It immediately reset and let me go on my way. The other time I just got DEF at the pump which is 1000 times more convenient. No drama like what you described.

Wow I didn't realize they are selling DEF at the pump. Im in SoCal and I have yet to see that. Not a real surprise as they don't like diesel trucks here in Commifornia.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:15 PM
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Most of the trucks stops in California have DEF at the pumps. You might have to go to the truck fueling bays though instead of the car bays. I topped up in Indio at the T.A. Travel Center & I believe the Pilot in Corning on the way home. When you prepay, both the diesel and the DEF pumps will work without having to go back inside to prepay again.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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It sounds like you need to almost fill it when the warning comes on. Mine came on for the first time the other day, I put 5 gallons in and took it to between 3/4 and full, I have never had an issue. Totally get the frustration, but when it gets low, id fill it up as close to possible to full. That might have saved you the heart ache.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 03:54 PM
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Most of the trucks stops in California have DEF at the pumps. You might have to go to the truck fueling bays though instead of the car bays. I topped up in Indio at the T.A. Travel Center & I believe the Pilot in Corning on the way home. When you prepay, both the diesel and the DEF pumps will work without having to go back inside to prepay again.
Yeah, but who wants to pay truckstop fuel prices?
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 10:36 PM
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After reading this post, I went ahead and put 2 1/2 gallons in today. It was 3/4 full but leaving in the morning pulling the trailer to North Carolina. Don't need any issues.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:06 PM
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Yeah, but who wants to pay truckstop fuel prices?
Truck stop prices are the cheapest around....
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:17 PM
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Exactly, truck stop fueling is the best price. If you can get a fuel card, it's way easier. Easier to get in and out, DEF pumps, high flow pumps, and the price is better than the retail market, the fuel quality is also generally better as they sell high volume.
 
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