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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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Stupid trailer brake controller question

I have a 2017 F450 with the factory brake controller, my 2008 F450 would play nice with my electric over hydraulic actuator in my heavy duty equipment trailer but the 2017 WILL NOT! The 2017 sends a signal every 2-3 seconds and my actuator interprets this as a "apply light braking every 2-3 seconds". We've tried the, for lack of a better term "filter" that supposedly makes later model Chevy's and Fords work, but it doesn't. I hate to say it but I think I may need to abandon the factory one, which I like, for an aftermarket unit.

Has anyone else had to do this and is there a plug and play solution? I'm moving and very busy, and with all the tech in these trucks I'm leery of splicing into something that is microprocessor controlled or monitored. In other words I don't want to muck it up.

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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:17 PM
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I am sure you did, but did you go into the options and sure you the TBC configured for your setup?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:19 PM
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Yup, first thing I tried.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:22 PM
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how does the trailer work with another truck? If you have one you can test with.


If the TBC is sending a signal when it should not then it maybe a bad TBC.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:28 PM
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I could try plugging it into the 2011 Raptor, in fact I'll do that, can't hook it up. It seems to be sending a 7v signal down the line perhaps asking, are you still there?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:37 PM
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I guess you could at least test the power output.


Half wonder if you could swap the TBC out of each.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:46 PM
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I didn't check the plugs in the back but they are different. The Raptor will apply the brakes normally with the manual switches. The 2017 also works fine with my standard electric brakes on my other trailer.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 03:49 PM
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There's no such thing as a stupid question. Only stupid responses.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 05:44 PM
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Just a wild shot but maybe disable trailer sway control in the options?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 06:39 PM
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You did set the controll er to electric over hydraulics in the setup. Trying to read on my phone.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 06:50 PM
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I did, it still sends a pulse down the wire and when driving and applying the brakes by hand, you can see the pulse on the info screen.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 07:11 PM
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Hmm ill have to watch mine next week I don't remember ever seeing that pulse on my display, I run regular electric brakes. You may need to take it to the dealer for trouble shooting, but knowing most dealer that would mean going with the trailer to show them what it is doing. Here is another post about the same issue.
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/traile...-truck-349345/
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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if you can actually see the pulse being sent on the screen, it's not an "are you there" check.. the screen is going to only show actual braking requests. Possible that your brake pedal sensor is actually misadjusted, and it's actually producing a very light request every time you hit any sort of bump?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 09:49 PM
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Adaptive Cruise? Could that possibly activating if you have it?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 09:52 PM
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Thanks but it's when I select manual braking with the controller, it pulses as well. I'm going to put an aftermarket controller in for the time being, I just sold my house and have too many military vehicles and about 50 tons of parts to move under a deadline. If I can get them to play nice later I will and post the fix. Thanks for all the input!
 
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