Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

Tranny Install! Stupid mistake!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 12:22 PM
  #1  
df85732's Avatar
df85732
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,412
Likes: 123
From: Nebraska
Club FTE Gold Member
Tranny Install! Stupid mistake!

OK I went to install my Tranny and realized the pilot bearing and the friction plate/transmission spline do not line up! Now I know why they recommended the special tool when putting the clutch on Do you guys have any tricks or advise on how to get it lined up now that I have the clutch and bell housing on tight? Thanks in advance, Dave




 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 01:09 PM
  #2  
KULTULZ's Avatar
KULTULZ
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 218
From: W (BY GOD) V
Post

I hope you are tough and rugged as the only way I know w/o disassembling is to put the trans input shaft though the disc as far as you can and at that point have someone push the clutch pedal down enough to release enough pressure on the clutch disc for you to try and find the pilot bushing while wrestling the trans.

If you are successful, remind me never to **** you off...
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 01:33 PM
  #3  
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 27,294
Likes: 1,055
From: NM
I think you're in trouble, because the clutch linkage is partially on the trans, right? No real way to depress the PP fingers.
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 01:45 PM
  #4  
df85732's Avatar
df85732
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,412
Likes: 123
From: Nebraska
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
I think you're in trouble, because the clutch linkage is partially on the trans, right? No real way to depress the PP fingers.
Yes it is Ross At first I thought KULTULZ's idea was a good one then I thought the same thing you did Hopefully someone has a good idea, otherwise I'll be taking the bell housing and clutch back off
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 01:49 PM
  #5  
raytasch's Avatar
raytasch
Believe Nothing
20 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,514
Likes: 398
From: W. Central FL.
Club FTE Silver Member

If I am right, you have room to loosen the clutch pressure plate bolts from below on that Y block application with the dust cover removed. Loosen each bolt till there are a few threads holding the pressure plate. Rotate the flywheel, of course, and work your way around. This wlll allow the disk to be moved. I have had success aligning the clutch assembly with sockets of various sizes and a piece of dowel rod.
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 01:53 PM
  #6  
KULTULZ's Avatar
KULTULZ
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 218
From: W (BY GOD) V
Cool

...hmm...




The equalizer fork is there. If it can be operated from the equalizer, maybe get the alignment tool (or old input shaft) and put the TO bearing on the clutch fork (to depress fingers).

Have someone gently depress the clutch pedal enough to release the disc and use the pilot tool to find the pilot bearing.

Personally, I would remove the bell housing. Causing more aggravation than what it is worth...
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 02:21 PM
  #7  
bigwin56f100's Avatar
bigwin56f100
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 9,366
Likes: 1,726
From: AKRON ohio
I never pull the bell on a y block to do a clutch. I have even had success getting flywheels out through the bottom. I use a cut off input shaft as my line up tool. Works perfect
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 02:43 PM
  #8  
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 27,294
Likes: 1,055
From: NM
What are the two nuts in the BH, are those studs or bolts?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-6

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 03:27 PM
  #9  
haywoodya69's Avatar
haywoodya69
Junior User
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Get the proper tool and remove it push the tool through the clutch into the pilot bearing then start torqueing everything back down. It may suck but do it right
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 03:35 PM
  #10  
Jules The Great's Avatar
Jules The Great
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 555
Likes: 5
From: Marysville, WA
I had to add spacers under my pressure plate and did what Ray is suggesting above. just back off the pressure plate bolts a little to release pressure then you can get it close but leave it a little loose and tighten after installing the transmission! The bolts should be easily accessible after removing the lower access cover.
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 03:53 PM
  #11  
raytasch's Avatar
raytasch
Believe Nothing
20 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,514
Likes: 398
From: W. Central FL.
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
What are the two nuts in the BH, are those studs or bolts?
Ross, those are studs with the nuts screwed thereon. Remove the nuts, hang the transmission on the studs. Beats holding the transmission while trying to insert bolts. If memory serves me right, those studs and bolt are stock configuration
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 04:16 PM
  #12  
df85732's Avatar
df85732
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,412
Likes: 123
From: Nebraska
Club FTE Gold Member
Lot of great ideas guys! I came up with an idea that if I could put pressure on the plate it would loosen up obviously. I used a ratchet strap to pull on the fork and it worked great. Friction plate loosened right away. I then used a socket and bolt for the "alignment tool" and loosened the strap. I had to come inside to cool off for a while, but I think that will do the trick. Crossing my fingers.

As Raytash said Ross,those are factory studs to help hold the weight of the tranny during assembly. I had read that somewhere else before. Hopefully my next picture will be one showing the transmission attached


 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 04:38 PM
  #13  
raytasch's Avatar
raytasch
Believe Nothing
20 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,514
Likes: 398
From: W. Central FL.
Club FTE Silver Member

Great move. Now, don't forget when the throwout bearing goes in the reinstallation process.
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 04:45 PM
  #14  
Harrier's Avatar
Harrier
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,680
Likes: 1,251
From: Jefferson City, MO
Originally Posted by raytasch
Ross, those are studs with the nuts screwed thereon. Remove the nuts, hang the transmission on the studs. Beats holding the transmission while trying to insert bolts. If memory serves me right, those studs and bolt are stock configuration
Yeah, Ray told me this and I didn't listen at first. Then when I actually closely read his post and did what he said it was so much easier.

Looking good Dave. It's all a learning process. Tell yourself that between cuss words.
 
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2017 | 04:56 PM
  #15  
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 27,294
Likes: 1,055
From: NM
Honestly, I would put the trans up to it while you still have the strap connected, they are never "really" aligned until the trans says so.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:05 AM.

story-0
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-02 21:45:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-5
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE