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Old 06-13-2017, 12:22 PM
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Tranny Install! Stupid mistake!

OK I went to install my Tranny and realized the pilot bearing and the friction plate/transmission spline do not line up! Now I know why they recommended the special tool when putting the clutch on Do you guys have any tricks or advise on how to get it lined up now that I have the clutch and bell housing on tight? Thanks in advance, Dave




 
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I hope you are tough and rugged as the only way I know w/o disassembling is to put the trans input shaft though the disc as far as you can and at that point have someone push the clutch pedal down enough to release enough pressure on the clutch disc for you to try and find the pilot bushing while wrestling the trans.

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I think you're in trouble, because the clutch linkage is partially on the trans, right? No real way to depress the PP fingers.
 
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I think you're in trouble, because the clutch linkage is partially on the trans, right? No real way to depress the PP fingers.
Yes it is Ross At first I thought KULTULZ's idea was a good one then I thought the same thing you did Hopefully someone has a good idea, otherwise I'll be taking the bell housing and clutch back off
 
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If I am right, you have room to loosen the clutch pressure plate bolts from below on that Y block application with the dust cover removed. Loosen each bolt till there are a few threads holding the pressure plate. Rotate the flywheel, of course, and work your way around. This wlll allow the disk to be moved. I have had success aligning the clutch assembly with sockets of various sizes and a piece of dowel rod.
 
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Cool

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The equalizer fork is there. If it can be operated from the equalizer, maybe get the alignment tool (or old input shaft) and put the TO bearing on the clutch fork (to depress fingers).

Have someone gently depress the clutch pedal enough to release the disc and use the pilot tool to find the pilot bearing.

Personally, I would remove the bell housing. Causing more aggravation than what it is worth...
 
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I never pull the bell on a y block to do a clutch. I have even had success getting flywheels out through the bottom. I use a cut off input shaft as my line up tool. Works perfect
 
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What are the two nuts in the BH, are those studs or bolts?
 
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Get the proper tool and remove it push the tool through the clutch into the pilot bearing then start torqueing everything back down. It may suck but do it right
 
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I had to add spacers under my pressure plate and did what Ray is suggesting above. just back off the pressure plate bolts a little to release pressure then you can get it close but leave it a little loose and tighten after installing the transmission! The bolts should be easily accessible after removing the lower access cover.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
What are the two nuts in the BH, are those studs or bolts?
Ross, those are studs with the nuts screwed thereon. Remove the nuts, hang the transmission on the studs. Beats holding the transmission while trying to insert bolts. If memory serves me right, those studs and bolt are stock configuration
 
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Lot of great ideas guys! I came up with an idea that if I could put pressure on the plate it would loosen up obviously. I used a ratchet strap to pull on the fork and it worked great. Friction plate loosened right away. I then used a socket and bolt for the "alignment tool" and loosened the strap. I had to come inside to cool off for a while, but I think that will do the trick. Crossing my fingers.

As Raytash said Ross,those are factory studs to help hold the weight of the tranny during assembly. I had read that somewhere else before. Hopefully my next picture will be one showing the transmission attached


 
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Great move. Now, don't forget when the throwout bearing goes in the reinstallation process.
 
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Originally Posted by raytasch
Ross, those are studs with the nuts screwed thereon. Remove the nuts, hang the transmission on the studs. Beats holding the transmission while trying to insert bolts. If memory serves me right, those studs and bolt are stock configuration
Yeah, Ray told me this and I didn't listen at first. Then when I actually closely read his post and did what he said it was so much easier.

Looking good Dave. It's all a learning process. Tell yourself that between cuss words.
 
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Honestly, I would put the trans up to it while you still have the strap connected, they are never "really" aligned until the trans says so.
 


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