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Old Jun 8, 2017 | 08:06 AM
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King pin bushing hole alignment

Is it normal for the king pin bushing for a F1 holes to be slightly off center from the zerk fitting hole? They don't line up perfectly but still allow grease to pass. First time doing king pins. Machine shop did hone these vs reaming.

I used the kit of Speedway when I got the brake kit.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 06:58 AM
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Shouldn't be a problem. Sounds like the bushings were aligned slightly off when the shop pressed them in.
 
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BJ, Rotational wise they are fine. Vertically is where the concern is. Grease will still go through and in to the bushing, so that's good news. However this being my first king pin bushing adventure I didn't know if anyone else had this experience. The bushing if I recall are symmetrical, meaning there is not a wrong or right way to install them as long as the grease holes line up.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 07:38 AM
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You are correct. No difference top or bottom. In a past life time I owned a Brake & Frontend Alignment shop. We did pleanty of small truck king pins. We always sent out the spindles to have the bushing honed at our local machine shop. Some would come back with the holes dead on, some not that close. I can't remember a single one coming back prematurely due to a slight miss match of the grease holes. We did have pleanty come in for lack of grease! Make sure to keep them lubed up. No more than 3,000 miles between lube jobs. Those old car/trucks weren't built like today with ZERO maintenance (except oil and Filter changes) for 50,000 miles.
Somewhere in the 70s they changed to a plastic bushing that no longer needed honing.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 07:46 AM
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Thanks BJ, I was up at the truck stop talking with the guys and most of them said they use a delrin bushing now. The bronze type bushing are gone..lol
 
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Unfortunately they never made anything but metal for our oldies.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 08:36 AM
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I just picked mine up from the machine shop also. Same deal, machinist told me he drilled them a little before he honed them.

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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 08:45 AM
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Well let me ask you this.

Just pressing in the bronze bushings and honing them for proper fit will ensure correct pin alignment and rotation install?

 
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To be honest, I don't know if he teamed them or honed them, but the fit is perfect.

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Either will work but it's preferred to hone.
 
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Originally Posted by Thisguy65
... it's preferred to hone.
Preferred by whom? Just wondering...
 
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As long as the hone is properly piloted into the lower bushing while doing the top one, and vice versa, no problem. Some shops use a piston pin hone, which is not long enough to be piloted. The other difference is, with a fixed diameter reamer like the tool shown, you can't cut too much. An operator asleep at the hone (or an adjustable reamer) can go too far and they'll come out sloppy.
 
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The problem I had when trying to do my own was that the reamer was twisting the bushing in the hole making the bushing hole to zerk hole misaligned, like 180 misaligned. That's when I said let the machinist do this job, it's a pretty critical part of good steering.

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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1

As long as the hone is properly piloted into the lower bushing while doing the top one, and vice versa, no problem.
THANX!

So the more recent method is honing with a honing bar, correct?
 
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