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Hi everyone.
I am looking to replace my daily driver. I currently own a 2002 grand cherokee 4.7 V8 and its been nothing but a money pit, problem after problem.
I have previously owned a 2nd gen explorer V6 (great truck, crap engine) and a 3rd gen explorer (crap truck, great engine)
I live in New Zealand with a climate very similar to Seattle and western WA. I daily drive roughly 50kms/31miles a day.
It has always been a dream to owned an excursion. One has finally come up for sale that I am considering.
Its a 2003 eddie bauer with the 6.0 and 171,000 miles. My question is, would this be a good buy ? What do I need to consider? I assume making sure its studded and deleted is priority. I have never owned a diesel but I do have a large interest in them. I do always keep to servicing schedules too. Everything is changed when it is meant to be changed.
I am looking to replace my daily driver. I currently own a 2002 grand cherokee 4.7 V8 and its been nothing but a money pit, problem after problem.
I have previously owned a 2nd gen explorer V6 (great truck, crap engine) and a 3rd gen explorer (crap truck, great engine)
I live in New Zealand with a climate very similar to Seattle and western WA. I daily drive roughly 50kms/31miles a day.
It has always been a dream to owned an excursion. One has finally come up for sale that I am considering.
Its a 2003 eddie bauer with the 6.0 and 171,000 miles. My question is, would this be a good buy ? What do I need to consider? I assume making sure its studded and deleted is priority. I have never owned a diesel but I do have a large interest in them. I do always keep to servicing schedules too. Everything is changed when it is meant to be changed.
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That's strange. I have an 04 Overland in totally beautiful condition. The only reason for me getting an Ex is because I need more dog to not let the tail of our travel trailer wag the dog. Once the Ex has been gone over once in the shop, I'll be selling the Jeep I'm sure.
Good luck with your Dieswell. Yes bullet proof it properly (heads off) and delete it or course. At least once done you'll have fantastic towing ability (assuming you'll be getting a good tuner also).
Good luck with your Dieswell. Yes bullet proof it properly (heads off) and delete it or course. At least once done you'll have fantastic towing ability (assuming you'll be getting a good tuner also).
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So even a bullet proofed 6.0 is going to give me a lot of troubles? I had heard once you bullet proofed them they would last you forever.
I do like my Jeep but its had over 20k spent on it over 2 years including having the engine completely rebuilt because a valve spring dropped.
I do like my Jeep but its had over 20k spent on it over 2 years including having the engine completely rebuilt because a valve spring dropped.
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You need to make sure what condition the Excursion, engine, transmission are in.
Sticky threads in Excursion and 6L forum on what to look for when buying.
Many original owners back in the day, felt tuners were great. Cheap tuners, destroy the trans, some can overfuel increasing cylinder pressures leading to blown head gaskets.
And non-oem oil filters came with goofy oil filter caps, which if used with OEM filters gives you unfiltered oil.
lack of choices in your Country, make options tough. Getting 6L heads, even decked might be really risky. Spare parts, ball joints, steering components, all could be tough.
OEM filters only!!
These concerns could lead to bigger issues.
No need to just bulletproof if things look fine. Get a obd2 live data reader (scangauge2 or app w/bluetooth obd2 adaptor) so you can read hpop, icp, ficm, and watch oil-coolant temps to determine if things look good or not. You need to learn these terms if you consider a 6L.
Why is current owner selling? Big lift and tires usually means tuner, some tuners are bad bad bad for the 6L.
Sticky threads in Excursion and 6L forum on what to look for when buying.
Many original owners back in the day, felt tuners were great. Cheap tuners, destroy the trans, some can overfuel increasing cylinder pressures leading to blown head gaskets.
And non-oem oil filters came with goofy oil filter caps, which if used with OEM filters gives you unfiltered oil.
lack of choices in your Country, make options tough. Getting 6L heads, even decked might be really risky. Spare parts, ball joints, steering components, all could be tough.
OEM filters only!!
These concerns could lead to bigger issues.
No need to just bulletproof if things look fine. Get a obd2 live data reader (scangauge2 or app w/bluetooth obd2 adaptor) so you can read hpop, icp, ficm, and watch oil-coolant temps to determine if things look good or not. You need to learn these terms if you consider a 6L.
Why is current owner selling? Big lift and tires usually means tuner, some tuners are bad bad bad for the 6L.
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It definitely is a lot to consider. It appears to be in stock condition. Its not in my city so viewing isn't really an option, unless I was certain in buying it. Here is the listing if it makes it any easier for you
Ford Other Excursion XLT 2003 | Trade Me
Ford Other Excursion XLT 2003 | Trade Me
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170k miles is low for already having injectors done but that is a $3000 usd job.
The 6.0 uses a variable pitch vaned turbo that can be troublesome.
Considering it was used as a tow rig I'd say 250k miles is reasonable expectation for a trans, ball joints and steering bits every 100k , brakes every 70k
just things to consider
The 6.0 uses a variable pitch vaned turbo that can be troublesome.
Considering it was used as a tow rig I'd say 250k miles is reasonable expectation for a trans, ball joints and steering bits every 100k , brakes every 70k
just things to consider
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OMG I figured out the underhood picture
The ad expired, but if you search for "ford excursion" you can easily find it.
I have been mystified by the "hoses" on top on engine. Then I realized.......
They had to EXTEND all the PCM, wiring harnesses, a/c, heater core hoses, because !!!!everything!!!! is swapped on the interior from side-to-side, what a major mess this caused. I can only imagine other issues the conversion caused.
I have been mystified by the "hoses" on top on engine. Then I realized.......
They had to EXTEND all the PCM, wiring harnesses, a/c, heater core hoses, because !!!!everything!!!! is swapped on the interior from side-to-side, what a major mess this caused. I can only imagine other issues the conversion caused.
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