What should I replace on front end
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You'll have to give me a bit to look up the part numbers I used, but I'll tell you real quick what I replaced. I replaced the steering gear, drag link, inner and outer tie rods, tie rod adjustment sleeve, king pin set, radius arm bushings, repacked the wheel bearings, and lowered the front and rear with a DJM 3/4 kit. Later I did the front and rear shocks, standard size shocks up front and drop shocks in the rear.
By C/S I'm assuming you mean Camper Special. Mine's not a C/S.
Before all of these parts were replaced I had already replaced my rag joint. Replacing the rag joint, in my experience, doesn't remove any wandering or anything like that. It DOES fix the problem of having a steering wheel that bounces a good few inches from left to right before it actually engages the steering gear and turns the wheels. If you're trying to keep your parts list to a minimum I would see if you're rag joint is bad, which most are after 40ish years. Then check everything else for play and replace whatever is actually bad (tie rod ends, play in the wheel bearings, etc etc). For example, I only had one really bad tie rod end, but since I was throwing money at having it lowered I figured replace them all and not worry about coming back to replace the others once they finally gave.
By C/S I'm assuming you mean Camper Special. Mine's not a C/S.
Before all of these parts were replaced I had already replaced my rag joint. Replacing the rag joint, in my experience, doesn't remove any wandering or anything like that. It DOES fix the problem of having a steering wheel that bounces a good few inches from left to right before it actually engages the steering gear and turns the wheels. If you're trying to keep your parts list to a minimum I would see if you're rag joint is bad, which most are after 40ish years. Then check everything else for play and replace whatever is actually bad (tie rod ends, play in the wheel bearings, etc etc). For example, I only had one really bad tie rod end, but since I was throwing money at having it lowered I figured replace them all and not worry about coming back to replace the others once they finally gave.
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Thanks for the info.
Yes, CS was for camper special but I was mistaken, I have a Trailer Special.
My steering does bounce about 1" before it engages and drives the wife nuts, so the rag joint will get replaced.
I'll likely do the bushings that are dry rotted.
Thanks for the tip!
Victor
Yes, CS was for camper special but I was mistaken, I have a Trailer Special.
My steering does bounce about 1" before it engages and drives the wife nuts, so the rag joint will get replaced.
I'll likely do the bushings that are dry rotted.
Thanks for the tip!
Victor
You'll have to give me a bit to look up the part numbers I used, but I'll tell you real quick what I replaced. I replaced the steering gear, drag link, inner and outer tie rods, tie rod adjustment sleeve, king pin set, radius arm bushings, repacked the wheel bearings, and lowered the front and rear with a DJM 3/4 kit. Later I did the front and rear shocks, standard size shocks up front and drop shocks in the rear.
By C/S I'm assuming you mean Camper Special. Mine's not a C/S.
Before all of these parts were replaced I had already replaced my rag joint. Replacing the rag joint, in my experience, doesn't remove any wandering or anything like that. It DOES fix the problem of having a steering wheel that bounces a good few inches from left to right before it actually engages the steering gear and turns the wheels. If you're trying to keep your parts list to a minimum I would see if you're rag joint is bad, which most are after 40ish years. Then check everything else for play and replace whatever is actually bad (tie rod ends, play in the wheel bearings, etc etc). For example, I only had one really bad tie rod end, but since I was throwing money at having it lowered I figured replace them all and not worry about coming back to replace the others once they finally gave.
By C/S I'm assuming you mean Camper Special. Mine's not a C/S.
Before all of these parts were replaced I had already replaced my rag joint. Replacing the rag joint, in my experience, doesn't remove any wandering or anything like that. It DOES fix the problem of having a steering wheel that bounces a good few inches from left to right before it actually engages the steering gear and turns the wheels. If you're trying to keep your parts list to a minimum I would see if you're rag joint is bad, which most are after 40ish years. Then check everything else for play and replace whatever is actually bad (tie rod ends, play in the wheel bearings, etc etc). For example, I only had one really bad tie rod end, but since I was throwing money at having it lowered I figured replace them all and not worry about coming back to replace the others once they finally gave.
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I know it's been a while, but I'm gonna give out the part numbers of the parts I put on the truck. Again, this was on a 1977 F100 2wd.
These were purchased from Summit Racing, JCWhitney, and Autozone and these are their part numbers. They have the manufacturer's part numbers on their websites if you're interested in getting them from another vendor. I did that in order to shop around. I'll include the prices I paid since I'm sure some might be curious. The only reason I went with Autozone was for my front shocks and I wanted to source them from a local brick and mortar store in case of a return. After dealing with Summit and NPD I got sick of mailing crap back and waiting forever for replacements after waiting forever for a resolution in the first place. I should probably do reviews on all the parts I've put on this truck having gone through several vendors (LMC, NPD, Dennis Carpenter, Summit, JCWhitney, etc.) for different parts.
Summit Racing
A1 Cardone Reman Steering Box - AAZ-27-7504 - $119.97/w no core charge.
Moog King Pin Set - MOG-8540B - $61.97
Moog Outer Tie Rod End - MOG-DS806 - $28.47
Moog Drag Link - MOG-DS807 - $68.78
Moog Inner Tie Rod End - MOG-ES413R - $15.93
Moog Tie Rod Sleeve - MOG-ES362S - $12.97
Belltech Nitro 2 Drop Shocks - BEL-8518 - $82.40/pair
I already had an old set of DJM shackles and hangers that I bought like 10 years ago for my '75, but I'll put the Summit part number and price just for reference.
DJM 4" Drop Shackles/Hangers - DJM-HS1123-4 - $169.97
JCWhitney
Moog Radius Rod Bushings - K80004 - $29.99
DJM 3" Drop Dream Beams - DB3004-3 - $449.99
Autozone
Bilstein B6 4600 Front Shocks - 24184656 - $201.98/pair
My total parts cost minus Shackles/Hangers which I already had is $1,072.45
These were purchased from Summit Racing, JCWhitney, and Autozone and these are their part numbers. They have the manufacturer's part numbers on their websites if you're interested in getting them from another vendor. I did that in order to shop around. I'll include the prices I paid since I'm sure some might be curious. The only reason I went with Autozone was for my front shocks and I wanted to source them from a local brick and mortar store in case of a return. After dealing with Summit and NPD I got sick of mailing crap back and waiting forever for replacements after waiting forever for a resolution in the first place. I should probably do reviews on all the parts I've put on this truck having gone through several vendors (LMC, NPD, Dennis Carpenter, Summit, JCWhitney, etc.) for different parts.
Summit Racing
A1 Cardone Reman Steering Box - AAZ-27-7504 - $119.97/w no core charge.
Moog King Pin Set - MOG-8540B - $61.97
Moog Outer Tie Rod End - MOG-DS806 - $28.47
Moog Drag Link - MOG-DS807 - $68.78
Moog Inner Tie Rod End - MOG-ES413R - $15.93
Moog Tie Rod Sleeve - MOG-ES362S - $12.97
Belltech Nitro 2 Drop Shocks - BEL-8518 - $82.40/pair
I already had an old set of DJM shackles and hangers that I bought like 10 years ago for my '75, but I'll put the Summit part number and price just for reference.
DJM 4" Drop Shackles/Hangers - DJM-HS1123-4 - $169.97
JCWhitney
Moog Radius Rod Bushings - K80004 - $29.99
DJM 3" Drop Dream Beams - DB3004-3 - $449.99
Autozone
Bilstein B6 4600 Front Shocks - 24184656 - $201.98/pair
My total parts cost minus Shackles/Hangers which I already had is $1,072.45
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