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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 08:28 PM
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Trying to increase my mpg

I have a 1986 f250 with a carbed 302 and either a c5 or c6 automatic trans. I canged it to a holley 650 4bbl and ended up getting loke 8mpg i switched it back to 2bbl now it wont pull well. Any suggestions?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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A smaller holley 4 barrel or edelbrock would probably work better and give you your fuel mileage back. I know most 650's are double pumpers. Is that what you put on there? You need a street carb around 600 cfm or so.

After that you need to get rid of that c6. Get some sort of overdrive trans in it, and that will help it. Do you know what your gearing is? You can look at a tag on the rearend or look at the code number on the doorjamb tag. It may be 4.10's in it since it's a 302. What size tires are you running? Does it have a lift on it?
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 08:42 PM
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Ha, Ha, Ha, Heee, Heee Heee, gas mileage! now THAT's funny
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 08:45 PM
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A 650 cfm carb is too big for a stock 302. Even a 600 cfm is too big for a stock 302. Although you can always go down a few sizes on the jet which will help some. A 500 cfm 4 bbl is a good size. I think quickfuel makes a smaller carb. I think it's a 470 or 490. Not sure how it will work with your motor but it's only around $300 new. Holleys have big primary venturis that kill mpg but are good for performance. I'm running #63 primary jets in my 85 bullnose and it's still a bit rich but runs well through all circuits. I get anywhere from 15-18 mpg on the highway. You can also change your accelerator pump squirter to a smaller size. My old QF 650 that I bought used came with #66 primaries with and #31 squirter. After much trial and error I wound up at #63 & #25 and it helped with mileage a lot. I would try to tinker a bit if you have the time.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 08:55 PM
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It is a double pumper i got it for free. No lift and the tag on rear end says v126a 552026co5
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 09:01 PM
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Holley makes a 2300 v2 carb in 350 cfm and 500 cfm that bolts onto the stock v2 manifold.
Should help on power and MPG.
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With the 4bbl i was getting like 7 8 miles to the gallon
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 09:03 PM
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And i did put on an edelbrock aljminum intake with a little longer tunnels
 
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I thought so. That is a race carb. I bet it didn't run that great with it either did it? Big bog when you nailed it correct?

I don't recognize anything on the tag except it may have 3.55's in it. They usually punch a hole right through the 3 for the mounting bolt. 3.55's would not be a bad gear for that truck with that small engine.

This engine was originally fuel injected correct? Was the whole engine swapped or was it converted to carb? What fuel pump system does it have? It's rare if all this conversion was done neatly and correct.
 
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It originally had a fuel injected 351 and now it is a mechanical fuel pump
 
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Yep, 3.55's like Dave said. But, a 600 CFM carb is about right for a 351, so I'd go smaller on the carb for a little 302. (A 302 in an F250?)

And, I agree with Dave on ditching the C6. It is a power hog, and it kills MPG.

Show us a pic of the distributor, as that'll help us understand what ignition system you have.
 
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Lottle to late to take a pic. But it has a distributer and coil
 
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Yep, they all had a distributor and a coil. But what we need to see is if there's a vacuum advance on the distributor. That will tell us if the ignition advance is computer controlled or not.
 
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It has a vacuum advance
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 10:10 PM
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Good. That means no computer. So, the MPG problem is probably the carb - and the transmission. But the carb is much easier to fix.
 
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