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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 10:34 AM
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2017 10 speed question.

I have 700 miles on my '17 with the 10 speed. So far everything has been amazing but i do have one question for anyone that has one or has driven one. I notice when slowing down, more so when on the brakes you can feel the trans downshifting almost like a manual trans. My guess is that the torque converter stays locked for engine braking and it's just the trans working but i just wanted to make sure it was normal. My has wife commented "why do you keep jabbing the brakes" lol
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 10:36 AM
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I think one of the features of the 10-speed is that the torque converter stays locked except when starting/stopping/reversing. Most of the time during driving the torque converter will be locked.

It's probably going to feel "crisper" than an older design (like the 6-speed).
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 10:59 AM
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Thats kind of what it feels like. It's not a harsh shift, but it feels like you dropped a gear and didn't rev match just slipped the clutch out. Reminds me of a slightly warped rotor at a slow speed.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 03:12 PM
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Does this feel any different in tow/haul mode?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 09:38 PM
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Get the same thing in my truck. I'd call it normal nothing to worry about.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 10:07 AM
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It's normal, and if you REALLY want to feel it put it in Sport mode. The downshifts are very noticeable.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 06:55 PM
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Ok cool, didn't seem like something "wrong" just different. I could see people complaining but it's some thing you would get used to. I'm used to it from driving manual for many years, and my jeep does the same thing because the TC solenoid is going out lol.

Sport mode, no real purpose on a truck, but it sure is fun lol.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Terryd91

Sport mode, no real purpose on a truck, but it sure is fun lol.
Fun IS the purpose.
99.9% of the people who buy Raptors aren't pre-running desert races but they buy them anyway.
 
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Old May 1, 2017 | 09:22 AM
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I'd say its partly because the transmission skips gears. So a old fashioned automatic will go 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1, this transmission will skip a few to get where it needs (so it shifts much less), and that will cause a bigger difference in ratios, and give you that manual feel.
 
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Old May 4, 2017 | 10:29 PM
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Seems like Ford should have went to an 8 speed Transmission? Perhaps it would have worked like an automatic transmission and skipped less and perhaps still arrived at that magical extra 1MPG. But then again, I don't like getting jerked around by the transmission.

Perhaps down the road Engineering will get them to work as smooth as butter?
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 10:09 AM
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More gears and more ability to skip gears = good.
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 10:11 AM
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With 10 speeds, you end up with a lot of options. There are probably times when it can skip gears, and other times when (for example) 5 would be too low, 7 would be too high, but 6 would be "just right". Kind of a Goldilocks option.
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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As a guy who used to tow through the mountains with the 4-speed, I can appreciate closer gear options!
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Terryd91

Sport mode, no real purpose on a truck, but it sure is fun lol.
Mine stays in sport mode 90% of the time. I don't like to lug my vehicles around town at 30 - 40 mph in 6th gear.... Same with the Harley. Guys that are cruising the streets at 30 in 5th..... bad for engine.....
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 10:45 AM
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it skips gears in upshifting, haven't noticed it downshifting unless you have to hit the brakes hard, you know when idiots blow past you doing 90 then slam on the brakes because they miss their turn.

I'm going to call the dealer, i am getting hard shifts in low gears now. I take off easy, it doesn't want to shift out of first until about 2800 then it shifts to 3 hard. then shifts the rest of the gears smooth at 1900. Might try to pull the battery and reset the learning.
 
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