Headliner advice
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From: u-rah-rah Wisconsin
Carpenter unit - instlled solo - no drama or damage. To Ross' comment on the center support, I would suggest the folowing:
Before starting, put a small screw, point down, in the roof bracket.
Dry fit the headliner. When satisfied, push against the screw point to mark the location.
Remove the headliner
Drill a small pilot hole for the roof mount
Remove the screw from the bracket
Using low test fish line or thin twine, tie an end to the bracket hole
Thread the line through the pilot hole in the headliner
Use the line to quickly reposition the headliner to the dry fit location
Install an appropriate fastener to the roof bracket and remove the line
Install the other fasteners and the other panels
Before starting, put a small screw, point down, in the roof bracket.
Dry fit the headliner. When satisfied, push against the screw point to mark the location.
Remove the headliner
Drill a small pilot hole for the roof mount
Remove the screw from the bracket
Using low test fish line or thin twine, tie an end to the bracket hole
Thread the line through the pilot hole in the headliner
Use the line to quickly reposition the headliner to the dry fit location
Install an appropriate fastener to the roof bracket and remove the line
Install the other fasteners and the other panels
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Joined: Oct 2015
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From: Yakima, WA
I am just getting ready to install my headliner and interior kit and had a few questions.
1. I read that the kit tucks behind the back window rubber. Would it be better to install the window first and tuck it, or second to make it easier to not tuck it?
2. Does the headliner need to be screwed to the above bracket to hold it?
3. Is any adhesive required, or is it just done with the fasteners?
4. Is there a install order to these pieces that makes it easier?
I bought the cardboard kit from LMC, but it came with Dennis Carpenter horribly copied install directions.
1. I read that the kit tucks behind the back window rubber. Would it be better to install the window first and tuck it, or second to make it easier to not tuck it?
2. Does the headliner need to be screwed to the above bracket to hold it?
3. Is any adhesive required, or is it just done with the fasteners?
4. Is there a install order to these pieces that makes it easier?
I bought the cardboard kit from LMC, but it came with Dennis Carpenter horribly copied install directions.
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Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Sacramento
I installed the same cardboard kit from LMC. My recommendation: have a few frosty beverages first, or whatever relaxes your mind the most - you will need it.
Then, have some more of them.
Then if you are like me, you'll teach yourself many new cuss words while you patiently work it on, following all the very helpful tips from FTE, and at the very end manage to wrinkle part of it anyway.
Then more frosties until you no longer care that you wrinkled it...
Then, have some more of them.
Then if you are like me, you'll teach yourself many new cuss words while you patiently work it on, following all the very helpful tips from FTE, and at the very end manage to wrinkle part of it anyway.
Then more frosties until you no longer care that you wrinkled it...
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Joined: Jun 2011
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From: u-rah-rah Wisconsin
I am just getting ready to install my headliner and interior kit and had a few questions.
1. I read that the kit tucks behind the back window rubber. Would it be better to install the window first and tuck it, or second to make it easier to not tuck it? Window and seal first then headliner
2. Does the headliner need to be screwed to the above bracket to hold it? It will install without the screw but gravity will cause it to sag. Best to use a screw with a finish washer
3. Is any adhesive required, or is it just done with the fasteners? Only fasteners for me.
4. Is there a install order to these pieces that makes it easier?Once the top is in, the other parts will find their place better
I bought the cardboard kit from LMC, but it came with Dennis Carpenter horribly copied install directions.
1. I read that the kit tucks behind the back window rubber. Would it be better to install the window first and tuck it, or second to make it easier to not tuck it? Window and seal first then headliner
2. Does the headliner need to be screwed to the above bracket to hold it? It will install without the screw but gravity will cause it to sag. Best to use a screw with a finish washer
3. Is any adhesive required, or is it just done with the fasteners? Only fasteners for me.
4. Is there a install order to these pieces that makes it easier?Once the top is in, the other parts will find their place better
I bought the cardboard kit from LMC, but it came with Dennis Carpenter horribly copied install directions.
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Joined: May 2010
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From: Austin
I am wondering what the headliner attaches to in our '50 as a prior owner
took whatever support stuff there was & ground it off. Does anyone have a
pic of a '48 - '50 interior roof so I can see what I'm missing.
Thx
Ben in Austin
took whatever support stuff there was & ground it off. Does anyone have a
pic of a '48 - '50 interior roof so I can see what I'm missing.
Thx
Ben in Austin
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From: Yakima, WA
although I appreciate the helpful hint DadOh1, I think I will use FortyNiner's lol. Thanks.
Seems weird to have a big washer and screw in the middle of a perfectly good, black headliner. It makes sense that something has to hold it up there.
Seems weird to have a big washer and screw in the middle of a perfectly good, black headliner. It makes sense that something has to hold it up there.
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From: Central PA
Let's be careful here with our help. Be careful as the 48 to 52 headliners are different than the 53 to 56 headliners. I think the question was about 48 to 52 cabs. The directions from midfifty for 53 to 56 trucks is to put headliner first than the rear window. Don't know if 48 to 52 would be the same.
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From: Central Delaware
The cardboard headliner will stay in place without the center screw. If you get it placed properly, on the sides, above the doors, the pressure pushing up will do the trick. Mine was up there for several years, without issue, before I pulled it down to have upholstery applied to it.
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From: Yakima, WA
I was kicking around the idea of a Velcro tab on the bracket and the back of the headliner. It would keep it in place and would keep it smooth. Better than an adhesive that could seep through or tear away. Just a thought
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From: Central PA
Originally Posted by ben73058
I am wondering what the headliner attaches to in our '50 as a prior owner
took whatever support stuff there was & ground it off. Does anyone have a
pic of a '48 - '50 interior roof so I can see what I'm missing.
Thx
Ben in Austin
took whatever support stuff there was & ground it off. Does anyone have a
pic of a '48 - '50 interior roof so I can see what I'm missing.
Thx
Ben in Austin
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From: Austin
Thanks Guys
I really appreciate it. I've got just some bed liner sprayed on the ceiling...
kind of toasty in the Texas heat.
My niece just moved up to State College PA - kind of getting schooled on what real winter feels like. (She's cold).
Ben in Austin
1950 F1
I really appreciate it. I've got just some bed liner sprayed on the ceiling...
kind of toasty in the Texas heat.
My niece just moved up to State College PA - kind of getting schooled on what real winter feels like. (She's cold).
Ben in Austin
1950 F1