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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 08:37 AM
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Am I reading this timing pointer right?

So yesterday i installed a new distributor, and the truck runs much better now, with no pre ignition, but when I was setting the timing I realized there's a good chance I'm not reading this timing pointer correctly. Which spot is the correct place to read from, the orange, pink or green? I realize this is a pretty stupid question.....



 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 09:05 AM
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You didn't say what year or engine you have - but looks like 302 or 351.
So the edge you use would be:
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 09:15 AM
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yeah, I keep forgetting that when I post from my phone it doesn't show my sig. '82 302 in an f150
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 09:16 AM
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jesus, i don't think i can even get a view of that part of the timing pointer......
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 09:28 AM
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Can you take the picture from a few feet further back? It's hard to see exactly what your dealing with.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 09:52 AM
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 10:38 AM
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Is the stock location for alternator? Did this truck get the alternator mod?


It looks like it is mounted where the air pump would go - and it should be in the upper location on that bracket (heater hose would, of course, not be coming out of bracket hole).
I don't know - I haven't seen everything.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 11:08 AM
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I don't know if this was the stock location, but I have always thought it was. It does have a 3G alternator on there. It's a pain though having that alternator there, maybe the bracket in my March kit that just came in will move it

After looking at it, I believe it is the correct spot, there's still room for the smog pump to be mounted above it
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 01:18 PM
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country is correct, you go by the yellow line he drew...
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 02:06 PM
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I'll have to get creative then, there's no physical way for me to get a view on that point on the marker. I've got some engine issues also then, if I adjust my timing off that point than I don't think my motors even gonna run
 
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Just count the number of degrees from the correct marker to the location you can see. It looks "about" 15 degrees difference from your orange line to the correct place (the yellow line). You need to confirm but setting timing mark at TDC aligned to yellow edge (with engine OFF) and see what the damper marks show at the Orange location.


So if the timing is set to 0 degrees at the correct pointer (yellow line) you would be seeing 15 degrees at the orange line with your timing light. If you want to set timing to 10 degrees - then using the Orange location/pointer you would set it at 25 degrees.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2017 | 02:36 PM
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I thought of that too when I started to think about it. Now to figure out how to make the motor run, since apparently it really likes 40 degrees initial
 
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40? You must be off a tooth on the dizzy gear....
 
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40°... without vacuum?

Maybe the balancer has slipped?
You can check that tdc #1 actually IS tdc #1....

If I had to live with that I think I'd file a notch and apply a cheap timing tape of the right diameter to meet my new pointer notch.

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40°... without vacuum?

Maybe the balancer has slipped?
You can check that tdc #1 actually IS tdc #1....

If I had to live with that I think I'd file a notch and apply a cheap timing tape of the right diameter to meet my new pointer notch.
yeah, somethings not adding up, so I need to figure out what it is. i'll put #1 on TDC again tomorrow and check the balancer and see where she sets.
 
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