Tire Load - "E" only for our trucks?
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I got my truck with D rated tires on it. At the first chance I upgraded to E rated. It's not just the tire capacity to think about, it's how much weight you put on it AND the road conditions you'll be driving on. For the extra $40-$100 the peace of mind I get with E rated tires make the expense worth it.
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If I bump up to the 285/75/16, most tires are E rated. I have 285 BFG's right now.
It's not the price points, it's the looks. I am looking at 3 right now:
Cooper Discoverer AT/3 - Does anybody know if they say OWL - is the inside a blackwall, and I can use the blackwall side...or are both sides white lettered?
Falken Wildpeak AT3 - Strongly leaning towards this tire, but I'm not familiar with the brand.
Kumho Road Venture AT51 - Not familiar with this tire on a truck. I had them on my Mercedes and they were good tires. But, they look the most aggressive of the 3, not sure if I like that.
Personally, I don't like all the crap on the sides of the tires, especially the extra tread along the edges loke the new BFG's have. The Coopers would be perfect if they weren't etched with all street tire looking crap.
I don't need an AT as I don't do any offroading - but I like the looks of an AT tire. Not mud or snow. The old BFG's were perfect.
It's not the price points, it's the looks. I am looking at 3 right now:
Cooper Discoverer AT/3 - Does anybody know if they say OWL - is the inside a blackwall, and I can use the blackwall side...or are both sides white lettered?
Falken Wildpeak AT3 - Strongly leaning towards this tire, but I'm not familiar with the brand.
Kumho Road Venture AT51 - Not familiar with this tire on a truck. I had them on my Mercedes and they were good tires. But, they look the most aggressive of the 3, not sure if I like that.
Personally, I don't like all the crap on the sides of the tires, especially the extra tread along the edges loke the new BFG's have. The Coopers would be perfect if they weren't etched with all street tire looking crap.
I don't need an AT as I don't do any offroading - but I like the looks of an AT tire. Not mud or snow. The old BFG's were perfect.
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Sorry, but looks to me are completely secondary to safety. I know 90% of tires out there only have lettering on one side (you can run them blackwall). But if the tires I feel are safe happen to have tread up the side, so be it. I don't want to be "that guy" that had a blowout and died because I wanted to have my tires look "just so" instead of running tires that were safe.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
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Sorry, but looks to me are completely secondary to safety. I know 90% of tires out there only have lettering on one side (you can run them blackwall). But if the tires I feel are safe happen to have tread up the side, so be it. I don't want to be "that guy" that had a blowout and died because I wanted to have my tires look "just so" instead of running tires that were safe.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
And yes, looks will be important on a street tire too --but I don't plan on putting anything unsafe on my truck, period.
I simply hate all the tribal looking garb on the sidewalls.
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I just put a set of these on my dads truck last week, he likes blackwall so that's the way we did it. I prefer the white lettering but it's not my truck so...black they went. I know a lot of people who like this tire and I'm a Cooper fan so i'm hoping they are as good as hoped.
On the load rating side, D would be fine E would be better.
I'm over here running C rated for both my summer and winter set since 2010...I should be dead by now from what everyone says but I'm not
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For a mostly highway tread. I really liked the Uniroyal Laredo. Not sure if you can find them anymore but I went through a set on the Excursion and three sets on an Explorer we had. They had some long lasting tread as well and I only replaced them due to age and the small lift my springs gave were begging for a more aggressive tread.
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Falken is a niche brand owned by the Sumitomo rubber group of Japan, they are one of the worlds top rubber and tire manufactures owning more well know brands like Dunlop.
Truck tire wise I have only been on one trail ride in them but know they have had some success with my friends Naozumi, Gerald, And Jessi racing for them.
Naozumi on course out in Johnson Valley Ca at King of the Hammers race.
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Isn't that kinda like saying Pirelli's are a good tyre because they run in F1?
I know zero about the Falken's and the Kuhmo's. My brother has had a couple sets of the Cooper's and he was happy with them. I had a set of Michelin MS2's and was happy with them on pavement, they were fair to poor off. I think if you stick with a brand name tire and avoid the china bombs, you'll be happy enough with whatever you get.
I know zero about the Falken's and the Kuhmo's. My brother has had a couple sets of the Cooper's and he was happy with them. I had a set of Michelin MS2's and was happy with them on pavement, they were fair to poor off. I think if you stick with a brand name tire and avoid the china bombs, you'll be happy enough with whatever you get.
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In some cases yes, a few of the tire companies build us race specific tires but Falken runs their D.O.T. street tires, the same ones available to anybody retail.
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What I know about them,
Falken is a niche brand owned by the Sumitomo rubber group of Japan, they are one of the worlds top rubber and tire manufactures owning more well know brands like Dunlop.
Truck tire wise I have only been on one trail ride in them but know they have had some success with my friends Naozumi, Gerald, And Jessi racing for them.
Naozumi on course out in Johnson Valley Ca at King of the Hammers race.
Falken is a niche brand owned by the Sumitomo rubber group of Japan, they are one of the worlds top rubber and tire manufactures owning more well know brands like Dunlop.
Truck tire wise I have only been on one trail ride in them but know they have had some success with my friends Naozumi, Gerald, And Jessi racing for them.
Naozumi on course out in Johnson Valley Ca at King of the Hammers race.
Riverside here, so I'm a little familiar with KOH.
I just put a set of these on my dads truck last week, he likes blackwall so that's the way we did it. I prefer the white lettering but it's not my truck so...black they went. I know a lot of people who like this tire and I'm a Cooper fan so i'm hoping they are as good as hoped.
On the load rating side, D would be fine E would be better.
I'm over here running C rated for both my summer and winter set since 2010...I should be dead by now from what everyone says but I'm not
On the load rating side, D would be fine E would be better.
I'm over here running C rated for both my summer and winter set since 2010...I should be dead by now from what everyone says but I'm not
I guess I should have rephrased ny question from the start, I was simply confused about the load ratings, i.e. "E" vs 114 etc. Now I understand it better.
Thanks
For a mostly highway tread. I really liked the Uniroyal Laredo. Not sure if you can find them anymore but I went through a set on the Excursion and three sets on an Explorer we had. They had some long lasting tread as well and I only replaced them due to age and the small lift my springs gave were begging for a more aggressive tread.
Isn't that kinda like saying Pirelli's are a good tyre because they run in F1?
I know zero about the Falken's and the Kuhmo's. My brother has had a couple sets of the Cooper's and he was happy with them. I had a set of Michelin MS2's and was happy with them on pavement, they were fair to poor off. I think if you stick with a brand name tire and avoid the china bombs, you'll be happy enough with whatever you get.
I know zero about the Falken's and the Kuhmo's. My brother has had a couple sets of the Cooper's and he was happy with them. I had a set of Michelin MS2's and was happy with them on pavement, they were fair to poor off. I think if you stick with a brand name tire and avoid the china bombs, you'll be happy enough with whatever you get.
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Robert, those look great, thanks for taking the time to share.
I was trolling tires last night and came across Uniroyal Laredo's at Sears for $50 off. I like the fact they are a 60K tire, and yes, E rated. Sears also had a 25% installation discount off the entire purchase, and two other coupons...I got four tires installed/balanced, out the door with tax for $630. With all the discounts, I saved $280.
The Cooper AT3's from Discount Direct's eBay store were second in line --but I couldn't pass up the Sears discounts.
60K miles will probably be the last set I buy as I am only driving about 5-6K miles per year.
I was trolling tires last night and came across Uniroyal Laredo's at Sears for $50 off. I like the fact they are a 60K tire, and yes, E rated. Sears also had a 25% installation discount off the entire purchase, and two other coupons...I got four tires installed/balanced, out the door with tax for $630. With all the discounts, I saved $280.
The Cooper AT3's from Discount Direct's eBay store were second in line --but I couldn't pass up the Sears discounts.
60K miles will probably be the last set I buy as I am only driving about 5-6K miles per year.
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That being said, there could be something not quite in spec with my front axle/suspension, so the extra PSI could be offsetting that.
When I had to start buying larger than stock tires for my truck, I quickly learned the 37's didn't come in an E rated tired, but the D rated tire certainly had the specs. After doing some research I learned the alpha designations are far from industry standard with the same ratings from company to company. I'm not even sure why it's still used since it isn't standardized.
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