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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 09:42 PM
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Shift without clutch?

How many of you shift without using the clutch?

I know this saves on the clutch but does it wear on the tranny? In the long run which is better, using the clutch for all shifts or just on starting out?

OTR drivers?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2001 | 11:30 PM
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Shift without clutch?

I had a pressure plate go out on me once and I had to drive it home without the clutch. when I shifted it it sounded HORRIBLE!! The clutch and pressure plate that was in it were the originals and they lasted 8 years. since then I have replaced the clutch and it is still going strong 5 years later.

I say definetly use the clutch. after all that is what it is there for
 
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 12:25 AM
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Shift without clutch?

Why risk striping a gear?
one missed shift bad engine timing to gear speed and youll risk loosing a tooth and be out 1200+ bucks on a rebuild. In big trucks some use it some don't its a matter of matching you engine speed to tranny, controlling rpm drop, pushing the clutch in while match engine speed will give you virtually the same life span for your clutch as shifting w/o and gives you a barrier releasing stress off the moving parts. Pushing the clutch in w/o matching speed uses your syncros to bring the gears up to speed, a little more wear and tear.

Your call 1200+ bucks for the rebuild and if your using the clutch improperly a lifespan of 50000 miles, properly maybe 150000+ its only 400 for a decent clutch kit which will out live your tranny and engine used properly. your call 400 maybe 800 for two clutches or risk a new tranny.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:24 AM
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Shift without clutch?

I have done it on rare occasion such as when my clutch linkage broke. I do have a bad habit of, when not downshifting thru the gears, that when I come coasting up to a light I will slide it out of gear without the clutch. Usually this works fine, but occasionally there is still enough load on it that it goes out roughly and I suspect that is not so good.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 09:21 AM
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Shift without clutch?

Yeah in some big trucks you only use the cluth to start and to stop. These trucks were designed this way and should be driven this way. I have shifted without using a clutch in pickups and medium duty trucks before. If you are good you can shift with no, or a minimal amount of grinding. Although, I use the clutch to shift in pickups because they were designed to be dove that way.

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Old Nov 29, 2001 | 08:03 PM
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Shift without clutch?

I only do it occasionally, and when I had to due to a clutch master cylinder leak. I'd say don't do it unless you have to, and when you do don't try to force it or grind the gears. Getting the rpms matched right is the trick to it.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 05:57 PM
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Shift without clutch?

If you know what you are doing you won't grind gears, and it will be just as smooth as using the clutc, accualy somtimes smoother because you are paying more attention to your engine speed. If you don't have the experiance use your clutch. I shift without the clutch quite often. Just depends on if I feel like it.

 
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Old Dec 1, 2001 | 07:33 PM
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Shift without clutch?

In my truck, never, I would rather shell out the money for a clutch once in a great while than shell out the money for a tranny every once in a while! When I am riding my bike it is a different story, but then again it is a different type of tranny too.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2001 | 08:17 PM
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Shift without clutch?

>How many of you shift without using the clutch?
>
>I know this saves on the clutch but does it wear on the
>tranny? In the long run which is better, using the clutch
>for all shifts or just on starting out?
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>OTR drivers?

Why in the Sam hill would you want to risk blowing a Gear tooth or blowing your clutch plate out ?? come on why the h e double hockey stickes do you think there is a clutch in a pickup truck for anyway???!!!???

Get a clue!! Dude!!!

Never have I ran my 4x4 that way and never will I (not made of money)but if you are go ahead and shift away your investment!!!!!!
Cactus_jack23

 
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 07:10 PM
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Shift without clutch?

Just like in the above postings. With heavy trucks, yes with no problems. Most are designed for this peticular type of driving. As for pickups, they are NOT designed for this type of driving. It can be done and I am sure there are a lot of people that have done it, including myself, but it is not suggested. Clutches are cheaper and easier. I found out the hard way years ago. Jake.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2001 | 07:22 PM
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