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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Top_Speed1
U guys are getting deep! lol

The thumb print verification is here, to me this should be on the more expensive models. We've had thumb print employee checkin/out (in place of time card punch machines) now for at least 5 years.

Works great, nobody can punch another employee in or out too, so takes away the cheating/buddy system.

Should be in today's higher priced vehicles for engine on/start-ups; imo
And to keep the wife from using my truck
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 09:51 AM
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up fitter to 86
ground to 85
fuel pump to 87
power side of fuel pump to 30

 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 09:53 AM
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How about a good insurance policy??? The downside to the insurance policy route is that it takes so damn long to get another truck! Can't say I'm opposed to the AR option, but could find yourself in jail for a long long time ( depending on what state you live in! ).
Yes, crime is out of control. We absolutely need to reinforce, refund, and support our brave folks in blue; and seriously consider your own personal security. But I stray off subject.
Best to all.
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by stryder
Why not just install a Racelco switch?
https://www.ravelco.com/#:~:text=The...%20connections.
That’s a consideration but I wanted something that kept factory appearance or was not invasive in the cab at all. Upfitters are hidden in plain sight.

Do you have any experience with Ravelco?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 09:58 AM
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Tremco, you can switch the anti theft off for other drivers.
Works by placing another device in the shift interlock wiring.
https://tremcopoliceproducts.com/

I had one in a past car.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by chipdog4
Tremco, you can switch the anti theft off for other drivers.
Works by placing another device in the shift interlock wiring.
https://tremcopoliceproducts.com/

I had one in a past car.
Thanks.

My truck did not come with FordPass Connect for tracking but I'm looking into adding that, too. I'd love to have the app at hand for tracking the vehicle if it does ever drive off without me.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 12:25 PM
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I don't have a kill switch in my Excursion, but prior to this my wife and I both had Dodges (Durango and Ram 1500), which were both notorious for theft, as they didn't really have any anti-theft device in them. I installed simple kill switches, as you said above, but interrupting the starter, rather than the fuel pump. Same concept. On my Ram, I had a simple toggle switch hidden in the coin tray. I would flip it on, start it, then flip it off right away, so that I was always in the habit of keeping it off. For the Durango, I used the cig lighter as a momentary switch. It had to be pushed in to start.

The Revelco is a much more sophisticated device, but I think a simple hidden (or hidden in plain sight) kill switch is almost as effective, unless the person knows in advance where you hid the switch.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GMB Racing
up fitter to 86
ground to 85
fuel pump to 87
power side of fuel pump to 30
Can you elaborate on why you'd wire it this way? The upfitter switch is providing 12V via the lead wire, so why would that not go to pin 30?

I'm going to be tapping into one wire only. Fuel pump power supply. A second wire should be a return line back to fuel pump control module, and a 3rd for pump ground.

I'll interrupt the power supply TO the pump with a relay. So 12v will travel from the FP control via power wire that just happens to have a relay loop installed in the middle of it. So wouldn't the FP power wire be switched at 86 & 87?

 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by deveroutdoors
That’s a consideration but I wanted something that kept factory appearance or was not invasive in the cab at all. Upfitters are hidden in plain sight.

Do you have any experience with Ravelco?
Have you seen a Revelco? They're about as minimally invasive as you can get and can be mounted out of sight.

My *only* reservation on installing a Ravelco is losing remote start.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 01:24 PM
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i have found while looking for a system to interrupt to prevent a drive off steal
the push to start button ground wire will kill everything
if you interrupt that wire to ground, the truck will no turn on, will not start and sits there
i just have wire it to a switch or place out of sight or you know
hardest part is getting to it, as its up behind mid center stack on a steal cross bar.support.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 01:43 PM
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What about a switch that kills the brake light switch? They may be able to start but won't be able to get out of Park.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by robert sloane
i have found while looking for a system to interrupt to prevent a drive off steal
the push to start button ground wire will kill everything
if you interrupt that wire to ground, the truck will no turn on, will not start and sits there
i just have wire it to a switch or place out of sight or you know
hardest part is getting to it, as its up behind mid center stack on a steal cross bar.support.
Thats a good idea but keyed trucks don’t have that wire.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2022 | 11:56 AM
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As already mentioned, wire in a switch in-line with the wire that activates the starter. Done.



 
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Old Feb 24, 2022 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by deveroutdoors
Thanks.

My truck did not come with FordPass Connect for tracking but I'm looking into adding that, too. I'd love to have the app at hand for tracking the vehicle if it does ever drive off without me.
FordPass is useless. Takes seconds for a thief to unplug the cellular antenna.

Disabling the starter wire will slow down a thief but certainly won't prevent them from starting the truck. All they need to do is turn the key on or otherwise hotwire the ignition and then jump the starter terminals and away they go.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2022 | 03:34 PM
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Should be able to put a relay in line with the starter solenoid control wire. Wire the relay to the 5 and 6 switches, and configure them to be hot all the time. Use the NO contact on the form C relay to stay open while the switches are in the positions you don't want, and then have it energize when they are in the positions you DO want the truck to start, and voila.

Tons of these relays on scamazon. I can link one if you want.

Sorry if someone else already answered this. I did a quick glance of the responses, and they didn't look particularly helpful to achieve the actual result the OP wants. Good luck.
 
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