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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 09:45 PM
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Is there a reason that Ford doesn't allow you to order the rear sway bay with 20" wheels, or can I even put one on like this Hellwig?
who knows what the factory is thinking.

the hellwig BigWig fits any 250/350, long bed, short bed, DRW or SRW - regardless of the wheel size...I have a long bed, crew cab, SRW w/ 20's...the bar fits fine.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 10:40 PM
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Has anyone swapped out the front bar for the helwig? and did it help anything.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
Based on what I'm hearing here on the forum, the sway bar doesn't help all that much while towing. If you have a slide-in camper or you're not towing at all then it really helps.
The rear bar helps a LOT when towing; especially when pulling a 5er in a crosswind.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by WarDamnEagle!
Is there a reason that Ford doesn't allow you to order the rear sway bay with 20" wheels, or can I even put one on like this Hellwig?
Good question and for that answer, only FORD knows. Another action that fails the make good sense test...trucks are made for hauling, pulling, loading big weight and yet sway bars seem to be a rarity on the Superduty line...in spite of them being in universal use on cars both front and rear. Would LOVE to find out why not from a Ford engineer...

Originally Posted by wb6anp
Has anyone swapped out the front bar for the helwig? and did it help anything.
YES and yes! That said a word of caution on this adding to the front really plants your truck firmly and I would strongly suggest using an adjustable shock so you can dial in your ride, because it gets real firm and most would not like it.

I added it since I carried a heavy, HEAVY payload and towed a trailer at the same time.

That is about 5500 lbs in the bed and my trailer (not shown) runs about 2500. Front and Rear BigWig, truck sits level and handles incredibly well on the motorcycle roads.



Truck/camper sits level
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 03:54 PM
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I have the camper package on my truck, so rear sway bar. Just got home from 1st camping trip with the slide in camper. I noticed there to be a fair amount of body roll (truck has stableloads).

would swapping the factory sway bar to the hellwig make much of a difference?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kylant
I have the camper package on my truck, so rear sway bar. Just got home from 1st camping trip with the slide in camper. I noticed there to be a fair amount of body roll (truck has stableloads).

would swapping the factory sway bar to the hellwig make much of a difference?
I also ran stable loads and they really help with the vertical weight, the swaybar is for lateral loading...run both...
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
I also ran stable loads and they really help with the vertical weight, the swaybar is for lateral loading...run both...
ya, I have and run both.

The real question is: is the Hellwig Big Wig worth spending the $300+ over the the factory bar?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kylant
ya, I have and run both.

The real question is: is the Hellwig Big Wig worth spending the $300+ over the the factory bar?
Only you can make that call, but YES I have put it on my last 4 F 350's.

That said my pref is tight and firm suspension, I want a vehicle that handles and is responsive, that is my driving style. Don't own a caddy, don't want it and I find my KR as comfortable as I want or need. Most of all I like the SAFETY envelope that comes with a swaybar when you are hauling heavy...Note it is adjustable and I ran mine on the center position and wife was VERY happy.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Only you can make that call, but YES I have put it on my last 4 F 350's.

That said my pref is tight and firm suspension, I want a vehicle that handles and is responsive, that is my driving style. Don't own a caddy, don't want it and I find my KR as comfortable as I want or need. Most of all I like the SAFETY envelope that comes with a swaybar when you are hauling heavy...Note it is adjustable and I ran mine on the center position and wife was VERY happy.
^X2. It really tightens up the truck. You'll like it loaded or unloaded.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:13 AM
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The rear sway bar is only needed when you are hauling a good load, either in the bed or gooseneck/5er, which is also in the bed. A bumper pull won't affect sway as much, but will somewhat.
The problem with the ANTI-sway bars is they ALWAYS affect the ride quality. That is why I will be using StableLoad by Torklift Intl.

The nice thing about it is you can "turn it off" by rotating the device out of your spring load area. See their web page for full description.
It's not much cheaper, and if you go with both options it may be more, but it only affects the ride when you really need it.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:20 AM
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I thought about the Stsble loads, ran them on my F150, but dontg think I have the required tools to drill the springs.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 12:36 AM
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Hire someone to drill the holes then install it yourself.

At the bottom of the web page I referenced above are videos. The last one shows measured differences on several different suspension helpers. All videos are worth a look.
After watching them again now I think I'll go ahead and get them now instead of waiting until I get my slide in camper. I have the short bed, so it won't be near as big as 17 Oaks has, but still 3300lbs.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 01:10 AM
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Hey 17 Oaks, how do you like the Artic Fox Camper? I'm thinking of the 811 for my shorter truck.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DingusKhan
The rear sway bar is only needed when you are hauling a good load, either in the bed or gooseneck/5er, which is also in the bed. A bumper pull won't affect sway as much, but will somewhat.
The problem with the ANTI-sway bars is they ALWAYS affect the ride quality.
Your statement may be overly broad. At least on my 1/2 ton truck the Hellwig sway bar made unloaded driving quite a bit more stable. Mine had no sway bar at all.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DingusKhan
Hey 17 Oaks, how do you like the Artic Fox Camper? I'm thinking of the 811 for my shorter truck.
I'll chime in.

We have an Arctic Fox 811. We have a very well outfitted short bed model. It is a great "small" camper for our family of 4 (2 young children). We got it mid-summer last year, but only have a few trips in it. We are still getting used to it, but now are starting to enjoy it.

We looked at a few different models/brands and ended up with the AF.
Because of that, I also ended up with a new truck
The AF is heavy.
 
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