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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 07:28 AM
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That really sucks, I am going to look into it again today
 
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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 12:00 PM
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I suppose you could un-plumb the heads while still on the engine and hook up some kind of flushing system to the heads so that the flow would be high enough to scrub out the stuff that is still sitting in the heads. The injectors would have to be removed while doing this and cleaned of that same stuff by dissassembling. It is a real pain.

This is a lesson for the rest of us about why not to use aftermarket fuel filters. Sorry you are having to go through this.

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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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Tugly got some numbers for you!!

Note these were taken on a fully warmed up truck. At idle ICP 590psi, IPR 13%. cruise light ICP 1200psi, IPR 22%, and under load ICP 1850psi, IPR 33%. I took the fuel filter out and to my surprise everything was clean, My fuel light just came on thinking I was going to drop the tank and clean it. So I removed the driver side valve cover and ohmed all the injectors at the engine connection on the drivers side, all injectors were 4.5 ohms, as the truck cooled down the ohms dropped as well. I disconnected the fuel supply to the drivers head and unscrewed the FRx hose, ran a half a gallon of diesel at the supply and caught it at the end with a long hose, I didn't know there was a screen in the fitting that goes in the head, "that was clean" I ran it thru at 65 psi and it came out just as clean as it went in. Now I am having second thoughts about this being a dirt problem. I all ways use ford fuel filters, dont want to have to worry about the top only fitting one type, so I have 3 ford filters with me at all times. my tool box is a Ford man's dream, spare belts, all fluids, filters, coolant, fuel and oil. shovel, waders you name it I got it in there. So tomorrow I am going to pull the injectors and go from there. Thanks for everyone's help.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pirschwagon
Here is a process for testing the P1316. Perhaps you can narrow it down further.

DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE (DTC) P1316 INDICATES THAT CODES ARE STORED IN THE IDM

Possible causes:

a. Injector(s) or circuit(s)

b. Open or shorted IDM enable circuit

c. Open/short in EF circuit

d. Open/short in FDCS circuit

e. IDM relay

f. IDM powering circuits

g. IDM

h. PCM

Check for other codes.

Key on, engine off. (KOEO)

Perform KOEO On-Demand Self-Test.

P1316 OR P1670, CHECK FOR AN INTERMITTENT OPEN CIRCUIT

KEY OFF.

Install breakout box, leave PCM disconnected.

Disconnect IDM.

Check for intermittent open in the following circuits:

Measure resistance on (FDCS) Circuit 821 (BR/O) between IDM connector Pin 17 and PCM Test Pin 95.

Measure resistance on (EF) Circuit 818 (GY/W) between IDM connector Pin 4 and PCM Test Pin 48.

Grasp the harness close to the IDM connector. Wiggle, shake the harness while working your way back to the PCM, while looking for a spike on the DVOM.

Description The IDM provides the EF output signal to the PCM to confirm that proper timing/duration of fuel delivery command signal (FDCS) was received. Additionally, the EF signal is used to send diagnostics of the IDM and injectors (electrical) to the PCM.

DTC Description

P1668 = PCM-IDM diagnostic communication error

P1670 = Electronic feedback signal not detected

P1316 = Indicates that IDM DTCs are stored within the IDM

DTC P1668 and P1670 indicates that a communication error has occurred between the PCM and the IDM.

Possible causes:

a. Open fuse

b. IDM relay

c. Open or shorted IDM enable circuit

d. Open/short in EF circuit

e. Open/short in FDCS circuit

f. IDM powering circuits

g. PCM

h. Check for other codes.

KOEO:

Perform KOEO On-Demand Self-Test and retrieve Continuous DTCs.

CHECK CIRCUIT 818 (GY/W) FOR OPEN

Install breakout box; leave PCM disconnected.

Disconnect the IDM harness connector.

Measure resistance on Circuit 818 (GY/W) between PCM Test Pin 48 and IDM harness connector Pin 4.

Key on, engine off. Measure for voltage on Circuit 818 (GY/W) between PCM Test Pin 48 and battery ground.

Turn ignition switch to OFF. Measure resistance on Circuit 359 (GY/R) between PCM Test Pin 91 and IDM connector Pin 2.
I don't have a code p1316. just miss fire codes, key on and engine running self test.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by David7.3
Note these were taken on a fully warmed up truck. At idle ICP 590psi, IPR 13%. cruise light ICP 1200psi, IPR 22%, and under load ICP 1850psi, IPR 33%. I took the fuel filter out and to my surprise everything was clean, My fuel light just came on thinking I was going to drop the tank and clean it. So I removed the driver side valve cover and ohmed all the injectors at the engine connection on the drivers side, all injectors were 4.5 ohms, as the truck cooled down the ohms dropped as well. I disconnected the fuel supply to the drivers head and unscrewed the FRx hose, ran a half a gallon of diesel at the supply and caught it at the end with a long hose, I didn't know there was a screen in the fitting that goes in the head, "that was clean" I ran it thru at 65 psi and it came out just as clean as it went in. Now I am having second thoughts about this being a dirt problem. I all ways use ford fuel filters, dont want to have to worry about the top only fitting one type, so I have 3 ford filters with me at all times. my tool box is a Ford man's dream, spare belts, all fluids, filters, coolant, fuel and oil. shovel, waders you name it I got it in there. So tomorrow I am going to pull the injectors and go from there. Thanks for everyone's help.
hope ya can help!
 
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 03:39 PM
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Subscribed. I am really curious to see how this plays out.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 04:12 PM
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Got the IDM out this morning and did some ohm test from the connector to the 42 pin Valve cover, all seems good, as well as power and grounds. My friend who's shop I am borrowing to work on her had a used IDM from a 2000 F-350. Its wasn't the 120 that I had but I figured I would give it a shot, well I'll be. She kicked right off and after 3 minutes of smoke she cleared up and was firing on all 8. Getting one from swamps on Monday and hope that the problem is solved. Will let everyone know how she works out. More Later Oh yea thanks for every one's 2 cents, should be like 20 bucks with the debt were in, that must be a real old saying. Thanks
 
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 04:18 PM
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That is great to hear man!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 04:36 PM
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I sure hope so Byron!!! Reps to ya!!
 
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