Biodiesel. Any Advantages?
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OK. Did a little research.
Biodiesel has 119,500 BTUs/gal
#2 ULSD has 128,500 BUTs/gal.
Biodiesel has a minimum cetane number of 47.
So, assuming 100% efficiency, you loose about 7% in BTUs/gal.
That is about 1 mpg assuming you are getting 15 mpgs.
Biodiesel has 119,500 BTUs/gal
#2 ULSD has 128,500 BUTs/gal.
Biodiesel has a minimum cetane number of 47.
So, assuming 100% efficiency, you loose about 7% in BTUs/gal.
That is about 1 mpg assuming you are getting 15 mpgs.
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I use 2 to 3 hundred gallons of fuel a month in the busy season so 1 mpg loss adds up over the year. I average between 11.5 to 12.5 mpg's, not to mention the added crap in the oil. The regular diesel has been around for a long time, I would rather stick to that. jmho.
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Pure bio looks like lard @ 20 degrees F. In my area pretty much every station sells a blend with our product in it, so I'm forced to run a blend year round.
Bio is indeed a heck of a cleaner and will take any crud from the fuel system straight to the filters. I talked to some truck drivers in our early days of production that ran pure bio in their OTR rigs. They all claimed improved mileage and smoother running. They also said they changed the fuel filters repeatedly when they first started running bio due to it's cleaning properties. That's a non issue on rigs that always run bio. There have been issues with stations using non-bio rated fill hoses. Bio will eat non-rated fill hoses.
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During my most recent fill up I looked around the pump for any information on bio-diesel content as well as the cetane rating. Nothing. Not a sticker anywhere about anything. The station attendant was equally useless. This was at a Shell station.
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My workplace makes a little bio, ~50 million gallons a year. We make a high cloud and a low cloud to help with winter blends.
Pure bio looks like lard @ 20 degrees F. In my area pretty much every station sells a blend with our product in it, so I'm forced to run a blend year round.
Bio is indeed a heck of a cleaner and will take any crud from the fuel system straight to the filters. I talked to some truck drivers in our early days of production that ran pure bio in their OTR rigs. They all claimed improved mileage and smoother running. They also said they changed the fuel filters repeatedly when they first started running bio due to it's cleaning properties. That's a non issue on rigs that always run bio. There have been issues with stations using non-bio rated fill hoses. Bio will eat non-rated fill hoses.
Pure bio looks like lard @ 20 degrees F. In my area pretty much every station sells a blend with our product in it, so I'm forced to run a blend year round.
Bio is indeed a heck of a cleaner and will take any crud from the fuel system straight to the filters. I talked to some truck drivers in our early days of production that ran pure bio in their OTR rigs. They all claimed improved mileage and smoother running. They also said they changed the fuel filters repeatedly when they first started running bio due to it's cleaning properties. That's a non issue on rigs that always run bio. There have been issues with stations using non-bio rated fill hoses. Bio will eat non-rated fill hoses.
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No markings here for the most part, although the Fred Meyer station has a hand written sign that says D1S15 on it.. Diesel #1, 15 ppm Sulfur content.
Seems like people have had good and bad experiences with Biodiesel... I do wonder how that new form of Biodiesel that is only available in California does...
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Propel HRP diesel is not the same and Bio-Diesel. Diesel HPR meets the ASTM D975 approved for all diesel specification (ULSD) for use in all diesel engines. BioDiesel does not meet the spec and is only approved to 20 percent of the diesel fuel for our trucks.
I have been using it for about 2 years. WAY less regens. I went from 150 miles to 300/400 miles between regens.
Take read diesel specification (ULSD) for use in all diesel engines.
http://dieselhpr.com/assets/media/Di...cification.pdf
About Diesel HPR | Propel Diesel HPR
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Says B20 on the outside of the door, at least through 2016.... Not sure what the 2017 door says.
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Bio diesel in 6.7
I noticed your post and wanted to ask a question. I recenlty purchased a used 2011 F250. The wife and i took a trip and I used biodisel from Pilot. This caused the check engine light to come on. It went awayafter I fueled up again. Then on the way back I filled up again eith biodiesel from the same station and the check engine light returned with in a wuarter of that tank Ammi missing something or need to be adding anything to the fuel if using biodiesel? Thanks for any advice.
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I would go out of my way to fill up my 6.4L with bio when possible. It ran smoother and quieter, and oddly, the tank AFTER I ran bio would yield an extra .5-1 MPG. I think it has to do with less soot and therefore less regen on the next tank. Results were very similar to when I would run Power Service fuel additive. It was only rated for B5, but I ran B20 in it. I plan to do the same in my new 6.7L when I can.
Side note, I know several of the folks that run National Biodiesel Board (biodiesel.org) and their headquarters is near me (I've actually done some IT consulting work for them). Nearly all of them drive diesel vehicles (trucks, MB, Jeep, diesel Chevy Cruze) and they all run bio in them. Just noting this to say they practice what they preach about bio.
Side note, I know several of the folks that run National Biodiesel Board (biodiesel.org) and their headquarters is near me (I've actually done some IT consulting work for them). Nearly all of them drive diesel vehicles (trucks, MB, Jeep, diesel Chevy Cruze) and they all run bio in them. Just noting this to say they practice what they preach about bio.
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