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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 08:11 PM
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I have a 1967 f100 2wd with a 300 6 and a t18 and I want to swap the 300 6 with an atk 302 what would I need for the swap.
 
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1st off you'll need to buy the motor mount stands. From there a V8 accelerator pedal and bellcrank assembly. A rod from it to the carb. 302 Radiator and fan shroud. Depending on the year of the 302, the correct flywheel or flex plate.
Fig. 4
The 302 stands are 1" lower in overall height than the FE/I6 versions, as evidenced in Figs. 1 and 2. Also, the flat portion across the top where the motor mount sits is about an inch wider and several inches longer. However, once they're bolted up to the frame and crossmember, an FE will bolt up to them just fine....your engine will just sit 1" lower. You should still have plenty of oil pan clearance. This would be a great mod to help lower your truck's center of gravity for slightly better handling. However, you COULD have driveline angle problems, due to dropping the engine 1" but not dropping the transmission a similar amount.
Conversely, bolting up a 302 using the FE/I6 stands will cause your engine to sit 1" higher and I've been told this could also cause problems with U-joint bind due to improper driveshaft angles.
Shown below is a comparison shot of the two styles installed:


Fig. 5
The small-block stands were also used in the '73-'79 trucks with 351M/400 engines and will work just fine for swapping a small-block into an earlier truck.
In case you're going to start hitting NOS dealers or high-end salvage operations, the new part numbers for the small-block stands are:
  • DOTZ-6028-A - right stand
  • DOTZ-6029-A - left stand
Note: When installing small-block stands into a '67, '68 or early '69 truck, the front crossmember won't be drilled for the lower attachment points on the engine perches, since the small-block wasn't a factory offering until 'mid-'69. You'll have to bolt up the perches up using the top holes and then drill the lower holes, using the perch as a template.

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- These are the I6 (300ci) engine perches from a '79 F150.
IMPORTANT: There's a rumor floating around that Ford redesigned the front crossmember for the '77½ through '79 2WD trucks, which also meant the engine perches had to be redesigned, so these trucks couldn't be used as engine perch donors for earlier trucks. However, while there were redesigns on stands in '77½, it wasn't due to a change in the crossmember. (In fact, '79 6-cylinder trucks use a D4TZ (left) and a C5TZ (right) stand. That means one stand never changed from inception!) The '79 trucks use a D6TZ-5019-B frame front crossmember which is also the replacement for '73-'78 and fits all F100/F150/F250 and F350 2WD with Twin I-beams.
 
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D7TZ-6028-B (replaced D0TZ-6028-A) .. Right Engine Support Bracket aka tower/stand/perch / Obsolete

D7TZ-6029-B (replaced D0TZ-6029-A) .. Left Engine Support Bracket aka tower/stand/perch / Obsolete

Applications: 1969/79 F100 302 / 1975/79 F150 302 / 1977/79 F100/350 351M/400 2WD

No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.
 
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Okay thank you guys that really helped I'll post pics ad show you guys how it turned out one I put it in thanks again
 
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