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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 03:59 PM
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2005 crank no start

ok so this is kicking my ***, and here is why. vehicle had coolant coming out the exhaust, obvious egr cooler, friend tells me this is the second time its done this. truck only has 53k on it. did egr delete as well as replaced the oil cooler as is standard procedure. truck started and ran great, i drove it apx 45 minutes to burn out the old coolant that was in the exhaust system. parked the truck for the night. came out the next morning and started the truck drove around the block, truck started acting like it was running out of fuel so i brought back to the shop and parked it, now it wont restart. ficim has 48 volts and batteries are at 13, icp shows more than suffecient pressure and ficim shows sync. fuel pressure at the filter bowl is at 50 lbs, no codes are comming up on my snap on solus pro, i pulled the ficim and plugged it into another 05 i own and the ficim works, did a compression test on the engine before the egr delete was done and all cylinders are at 400 psi or with in 5% cam and crank sensors show they are syncing. I am at a total loss

god i wish they never got rid of the 7.3 i have a 99 with 318k miles on her and havent even changed an injector on her yet
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:04 PM
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If you have 50psi at fuel filter bowl then maybe you need to be looking at air management MAP, MAF, BARO and EBP for VGT.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:10 PM
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What is your IPR reading before cranking and during?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:15 PM
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Changed the oil cooler... probably need to pull the IPR and clean the trash off the screen.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:28 PM
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ipr is working properly, other wise i wouldnt show over 500 psi through the icp? but during cranking the average is around 50 and high side is 67. i know that it has to hit 85 before allowing the hpop to send the oil pressure through the stand pipes. but i am recieving adequate pressure at the icp
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:29 PM
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also new screen was put on ipr while i was there
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:32 PM
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The thing is it takes next to nothing to clog the IPR screen again. Have you tired unplugging IPS?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RLTW1983
also new screen was put on ipr while i was there
New screen won't do anything if there was already junk in the system during the oil cooler R and R.
The area needs to be surgically clean, quite literally, before that job is done.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:39 PM
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Is it commanding pulse width?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:40 PM
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no i hadnt tried unplugging it while cranking it. forgot about the stored logic parameters. will try that. please correct me if i am wrong the crank sequence is lpop ipr icp(ips) ficim. meaning that once icp has sensed high pressure oil it allows the ficim to sync. thus alloing the injectors to fire. if the ipr screen was clogged the hpop wouldnt allow the high pressure into the hp system therefore the icp would not be reading over 500psi. i may have that out of order, but pretty sure i dont.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:47 PM
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Is it commanding pulse width?
dont believe i can actually see that with my solus pro, will go through parameters in the data stream for the ficim
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 04:48 PM
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Key on and cranking. Rpm hits 150+. That gives cam and crank sync. ICP is commanded, IPR is commanded, ICPV is actual, FICM sync and then fuel pulse is a go.

Yes, your correct. Check fuel pulse.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WatsonR
Key on and cranking. Rpm hits 150+. That gives cam and crank sync. ICP is commanded, IPR is commanded, ICPV is actual, FICM sync and then fuel pulse is a go.

Yes, your correct. Check fuel pulse.
can not find what the pulse width pid is on the solus pro, have to do some research on that. with extreem extended crank was able to start the truck, have down pipe disconnected because i figured it might be a clogged cat, wasnt. excessive amounts of oil coming from the turbo exhaust out put side, truck ran great for about ten minutes then started running like ****. did koer test came back with two turbo codes and two cyln contribution codes. p0263, p0269, cyl 1 and 3, did individual injector disable test and both have no reaction. figure turbo is toast anyways will pull and check for oil in up pipes if non found will replace turbo and reteset and probably replace injectors
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 06:53 PM
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Replace the injectors.
Rebuild the turbo. Oil seal will leak into the exhaust.
If the ICP reading your referring to is above 500psi, that's a commanded value. You want icpv, the actual value of pressure. Check it with KOEO, should be .18-.24, then while cranking .80-1.0v to get it to fire.

As mentioned in my other post ICP is commanded, IPR is commanded, ICPV is actual.. check the actual. If its not making at least .8v, she won't fire or command the fuel.

Pretty common for an 05 to have the STC fitting fail and not make any HPOP.
 
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Randy - Good path of diagnosis.
 
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