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After seeing the video of the 2017 Chevy HD leave the 2017 Ford Superduty in the dust, I was able to acquire a 2017 Chevy 3500 Duramax CC 4x4 with 3.73 gears for some 0-60 acceleration runs. Since the new Duramax has 445hp and 910 torque, it should be very similar to the new Ford at 440hp and 925 torque. I warmed the truck up and did the first run with the traction control on at 8.44 seconds. The rest of the runs of 0-60 were done with the traction control off with the best result at 7.77 seconds. Running my truck which is an 2017 F350 CC 4x4 with 3.55 gears my best was 7.38 seconds 0-60. I totally expected the trucks to be very similar and the results have proven that theory. In the video, the Duramax either had a chip or the Ford driver wasn't trying.
tTe different variations of traction control could lead to different results. Ideally you should have turned them both completely off to where they aren't interfering at all.
If you hold both the ford and gm buttons down for a few seconds you will see stabilitrack disabled on the gm and advacetrac on the ford disabled. This would be a much better test.
Come on man, it would have made little if any difference on either truck. The fastest run with the GM felt perfect on the take off. I just wanted to prove to myself they were very similar.
Ok, so then this isn't a real test (no offense) but the different variations of traction control could lead to different results. Ideally you should have turned them both completely off to where they aren't interfering at all.
If you hold both the ford and gm buttons down for a few seconds you will see stabilitrack disabled on the gm and advacetrac on the ford disabled. This would be a much better test.
In the end, though, we are talking about a couple tenths, at most, by a non-professional driver with not necessarily repeatable results, on 8000 lb trucks. So, essentially, they are the same.
My God.....you're not saying that GM may have rigged the tests in their favor are you? So to the real reason these trucks are built.....hauling and pulling. Let's see a test with 1 ton duallys with the same gearing and pulling the same 5th wheel up a long incline like the one in Colorado....by an independant outfit that has no dog in the fight.
I apologize if I upset anyone, I was just more disappointed that it wasn't a level playing field for either vehicle to perform. I don't think there is going to be a real huge difference in times for either truck. I was just hoping that there wasn't interference by traction control computers so it could be a better test of the engine and not necessarily the computer controlling the power of either truck.
And then a family in a 4-cylinder Honda Accord or an F150 with the 2.7 comes along and spanks both of them. ��
In what world would you ever expect that? Seriously....that's funny.
Back to the OP, it sounds like they are incredibly close and the winner would probably depend on who hit the gas first or stayed at a Holiday Inn Express the previous night. Personally, I'd like to see the Stig run them around a racetrack.
I wish TFL trucks would hurry up and test the 2017 Duramax on the Ike Gauntlet pulling 30,000 pounds to compare to the Ram and 2017 Superduty they have already done. They probably won't because I don't believe the Duramax is rated to pull 30,000 lbs.
I wish TFL trucks would hurry up and test the 2017 Duramax on the Ike Gauntlet pulling 30,000 pounds to compare to the Ram and 2017 Superduty they have already done. They probably won't because I don't believe the Duramax is rated to pull 30,000 lbs.
Exactly, they can't (won't) do it. They will tow xx,xxx (some value less than the max load for a Super Duty) lbs because that is the max for the GM.
I think transmission overheating is the GM's biggest obstacle to towing 30k full throttle up the Ike. Mine would warm quickly if you pushed it hard with 17k behind it up steep hills.
Come on man, it would have made little if any difference on either truck. The fastest run with the GM felt perfect on the take off. I just wanted to prove to myself they were very similar.
Roadrunner, I appreciate you taking the time to run this test. Sounds like the Ford will be very competitive. If you are getting wheelspin in 1st and second on the Chevy, then the traction control is off. Any other mode isn't going to change squat.
By the way, could you give a quick summary of anything you liked better or worse about the new GM truck?
And then a family in a 4-cylinder Honda Accord or an F150 with the 2.7 comes along and spanks both of them.
Car & Driver clocked the 4-cylinder Accord (2017) at 7.6 seconds. Those guys will absolutely try every possible approach to get the best time, and it is on a prepped test track. It won't go faster than that. Roadrunner's time for the Ford was 7.38. MotorTrend, with similar approaches to C&D regarding test times, was 6.9 seconds for a Platinum 250 4x4 6.7L. So basically, the 4-banger Accord is not going to beat the 6.7L.
The 2.7L F-150 is a rocket and actually may be the quickest half-ton currently available...save the new 10-speed gen-2 3.5L EcoBoost Ford. The 2.7L Ford can hit 60 in 5.7 seconds.
One thing to note on the test is the axle ratio disparity. The Chevy had a 3.73 compared to the Ford's 3.55.
Last night I came to a stop in my 3.55 axle dually crew 4x4...applied some light brake torquing...left traction control fully on...and launched, up a hill. The truck burned rubber in 1st and 2nd gears, with the traction light flashing. The Ford is a beast.
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