so as you have all seen I have been making various topics to gain info as I'm going into a diesel soon. However I have been reading and watching videos and people have said that the DPF and DEF and EGR are bad for the engine. Something like allowing soot to collect within and it could even possibly get into the oil and so with that in mind....

would this his be something that causes a lot of problems or would this needed to be removed? I'm assuming if you remove this that your warranty is gone on the whole truck?

im confused and want to hear what you guys think that have been driving them for a long while now. Will you remove yours? Have you removed yours and or will you wait till warranty is over.

 

These trucks are well made and I wouldn't do anything until your warranty was up.

 

If you remove anything your engine warranty will be null and void from that day on.....Plus not in the to distant future government will pass a law that if you delete pollution components off you will be liable im sure...........

 

Alright but left alone these trucks filter systems and emissions are all fine then right? No problems?

 

These trucks have a long ways with reliability of motors and emissions control not as big of issue as was with late 6.0's and 6.4's

 

How do you know when the DPF filter is clean?? If it need to Regenerate?

 

Welcome to the future.....since the 1990 Clean Air Act, federal law has prohibited anyone (vehicle owners, mechanics, etc) from removing or rendering inoperative any emissions control device. Just google it if you interested in learning more.

Beyond federal culpability, there are most likely local laws where you live governing the same equipment.

 

It is automatic, you don't need to do anything yourself. I assume, but don't know, that holds true from the least to the most expensive SD.

 

I worried about this too...specifically how short trips and long idles are bad for it.

On mine, regens are automatic, but I've heard it's possible to get an operator commanded regen option.

I tried using TorquePro to monitor whether a regen was occurring, but it didn't work. The closest I could get was the EGT which was over 1100F during one. I also noticed that my MPG drops to about 10.5/11 during one. So I quit using the mobile app and just go by mpg.

I need to make at least an 80 minute round trip on the interstate every week even when I'm not pulling anything, so that pretty much becomes my regen time. Pretty much every week I'll get up to 80mph and after a little while...boom... mpg drops to 10.5. Usually by the time I get where I'm going, it's back up to between 17-20 depending on traffic and speed. It seems to take a long time...like 30+ minutes.

But it's become a non issue. Kind of a fascinating process, actually.

Do I wish I could take it all off and roll coal? Truthfully, yes, sometimes.

But I have to fight that and be an adult. So, I get my diesel pleasure from the sound of the motor, seeing how people look at me when I roll up, and from the fact that it "pulls like a freight train, and files like an airplane," which it absolutely does.

Wouldn't trade it for a gasser if you "set it on fire and rolled it down a hill."

 

I've had nothing but problems with the emissions equipment on my 2012 6.7. I am not a fan of deleting because it's louder and smells a lot worse if your not a fan of diesel exhaust. But it did get rid of all my problems. It also gives you a lot more power if you want it and the throttle response and shift points greatly improve. I am not in the minority when it comes to emissions problems. As much as I love the towing power of the diesel my next truck will be a gasser. Just so much simpler and they get the job done also.

 

Nothing is out right now to delete the 2017 6.7L right now so don't worry about it.

 

While my ordered 6.7 will be my first daily driver diesel, I own a small fleet and I have one with the re gen, an Isuzu and its in a sweeper. It would classify as extreme service. It works at low speed hours at a time. we force the re gen weekly. at around 80k it needed the filter cleaned and all kinds of related service to this system. cost $3k. Pain compared to my trucks that do not have such systems for sure.

 

From what I have been reading on this forum, the 2017 does not give you an indication on the dash when it goes into the re-gen mode. My 2016 JD tractor does indicate on the dash when it goes into re-gen. The manual also states not to turn off the engine (if possible) until re-gen completes. Mine has only done 1 re-gen after 165 hours which took about 20 minutes.


But on the Ford, what happens if you are in a re-gen and you just get home? I assume you turn the truck off and the re-gen will re-start the next time you start up. Been thinking about ordering a 2017diesel F250 Lariat and curious about the re-gen. Most of my driving is a 10 mile trip between my hobby farm and residence. Thanks. Al

 

I'm no expert or engineer, but that is what I believe I've observed on mine. Sometimes the regen isn't done, but I'm at my exit. I pull off and get to my destination and shut down. When I get out I hear lots of ticking (I'm assuming it's the cooling of the superheated metal).

When I get back on the interstate to go home, the mileage sucks until it doesn't.

I also read somebody here (can't remember who) that said this is exactly the way it works.

 

So does the Regen start over or continue wher t left off? I googled something about it and saw on YouTube a guys 2016 had a dash % thing


https://youtu.be/o9L8kyAdV30

the 17 doesn't have this?