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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 11:31 PM
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Same weight.

I really thought I was going to see a lighter weight difference.
My 2017 weighs 8200lbs just like my 2012 did.
Good thing they put on the aluminum
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 12:44 AM
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The aluminum weight reduction allowed them to re-purpose that weight somewhere else...like the boxed frame and cross members. They never claimed that the truck was lighter. Just more trim.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 12:51 AM
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My XL CCSB lost 300 lbs on the scale. I always heard the reduction was going to be around 300 lbs too.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 07:18 AM
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My dealer said the truck would be a few hundred pounds lighter. Based on what I'm seeing on this forum the payload ratings look very similar.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 08:04 AM
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I haven't yet driven a '17 Super Duty, but I'm sure the driving experience is quite different despite the negligible weight difference.

The body lost a good 700 lbs of weight with the switch to aluminum, which means the frame and driveline gained much of that back. This means a substantially lower center of gravity, which will improve handling and stability. My '15 F150 drives much better than my '13 did, and I attribute much of that to the lower center of gravity.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I haven't yet driven a '17 Super Duty, but I'm sure the driving experience is quite different despite the negligible weight difference.

The body lost a good 700 lbs of weight with the switch to aluminum, which means the frame and driveline gained much of that back. This means a substantially lower center of gravity, which will improve handling and stability. My '15 F150 drives much better than my '13 did, and I attribute much of that to the lower center of gravity.
Very good point, and you are correct; the frame, the bigger diffs and everything else are very low.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I haven't yet driven a '17 Super Duty, but I'm sure the driving experience is quite different despite the negligible weight difference.

The body lost a good 700 lbs of weight with the switch to aluminum, which means the frame and driveline gained much of that back. This means a substantially lower center of gravity, which will improve handling and stability. My '15 F150 drives much better than my '13 did, and I attribute much of that to the lower center of gravity.
the new trucks sit higher now too which may counteract the lower center of gravity though. Maybe not enough to make a difference however.
 
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I finally got to drive a new one and I was astonished at how differently the truck felt on the road. As Tom says above, the lower center of gravity and lighter body up high makes a huge difference. Aside from the engine feeling a little stronger this is what stood out to me the most driving a 2017.

Sudden movements or stops no longer produce the body roll and bouncing at a stop, it's very taught feeling and drives as if it were a much lighter vehicle.
 
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Originally Posted by klassic
I really thought I was going to see a lighter weight difference.
My 2017 weighs 8200lbs just like my 2012 did.
Good thing they put on the aluminum
Thank goodness they reinvested the weight! I don't want a lighter truck. I want a truck that will handle heavy loads better and a heavier truck handles a heavier load better. That's a fact.
 
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The F150 did get lighter when they switched to Aluminum body skins, but as other above have said, that weight was "reinvested" elsewhere on the super duty.
 
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The payload is really a disappointment in this truck if you ask me. I will still get one maybe when my lease is up soon but would really have liked more payload and less towing numbers as some are unachievable anyhow cause of the limiting factor of you guessed it payload
 
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The F450 King Ranch I saw had a 4751# payload, meaning it weights 14000-4751=9249#. No featherweight by any means!
 
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Originally Posted by Fmc4lfe
The payload is really a disappointment in this truck if you ask me. I will still get one maybe when my lease is up soon but would really have liked more payload and less towing numbers as some are unachievable anyhow cause of the limiting factor of you guessed it payload
I thought I read about big payload increases too because of the aluminum.
 
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