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Old 12-16-2016, 04:26 PM
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Google Roy nacewitz ford bolt. He has the.cad and s-2 bolts / screws in most sizes you need. He has kits for most everything you need also.
 
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Ya know all the work to get those darn hing pins out???? It seemed a no brainer to me to spend an extra couple of bucks to put the stainless ones back in there. Now I know better!
 
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Originally Posted by Justboy
Stainless is fine for bits you see and worth paying extra. Bear in mind though that corrosion will occur if they interface with untreated carbon steel due to sacrificial protection. More of an issue with any galvanised steel.
Contact with copper should be avoided for same reason. Could that be what you were thinking with anti-seize? i.e. copper based ones.
Justboy, I have not heard of a problem with copper based anti-seize. I have recently used it with stainless bolts into steel and stainless bolts into aluminum. Did I screw up?
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Copper and aluminum don't get along. Refer to the galvanic scale. 304 and 18-8 stainless are fine with carbon steel since almost all plain carbon steel fasteners are carburized.
 
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This was decent detail on galling: https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-i...d-galling.aspx

And Permatex sell stainless steel-specific anti-seize, news to me:
https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-7712.../dp/B0002UENJ2
 
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SS is softer than steel and easily galls as a result. Anti-seize works but it never fails to leave its mark on everything. In order to save myself some time I'll just say that Mylanta/Maalox (or generic equivalent) works as an anti-galling agent for SS, is a lot cheaper and doesn't get all over everything you didn't mean to touch. I'll let you do your own googling to see how it was the only agent approved for A&P service for many years.

Regarding bolt grades, a quick and dirty explanation is to consider the differences between 'soft', 'tough' and 'hard'. Grade 3 being soft, 5 tough and 8 hard. Soft will 'bend' without breaking but will 'stretch'. Grade 8 won't 'stretch' (as much) but will be brittle and break more easily than 3 if 'bent'. 5 is the middle ground - 'tough'.

Nylock nuts are great but I hate using them anywhere they might be exposed to road salts (salt, magnesium chloride, calcium chloride, etc.) Using them in those situations is pretty much signing up for never to be removed without breaking, at least in my experience.

BTW, that white stuff you see on brass fittings is not a sealant. It's an anti-galling agent. If you want/need a sealant don't count on it to do that job.
 
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Regarding bolt grades, a quick and dirty explanation is to consider the differences between 'soft', 'tough' and 'hard'. Grade 3 being soft, 5 tough and 8 hard. Soft will 'bend' without breaking but will 'stretch'. Grade 8 won't 'stretch' (as much) but will be brittle and break more easily than 3 if 'bent'. 5 is the middle ground - 'tough'.....
LOL, I've been down this road with AXracer. Gr8 bolts are not brittle, they will not break in bending except at loads greater than those that would snap a Gr3 or 5. They stretch just like Gr3/5 and remain elastic at loads 20-30% higher than Gr 5. Where this myth got started, I don't know.
 
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