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An interesting article today displays new tools used by vehicle thieves targeting keyless entry vehicles. There have been numerous articles in the past regarding the wi-fi hotspot capabilities of the new on board computers which tie one's phone to the vehicle and hackers ability to take control of many functions and now there is a device which will read the key fob and then emulate it for the thief to open, start and drive away with your vehicle and any possessions on board. There may come a time when the key fob will need to be secured in a Faraday cage or additional security measures need to be installed to be sure your vehicle will stay where you left it.
Wireless security breaches have existed since the day wireless was invented. The tech to do so on the other hand is not something you just Google and get of ebay. Well you likely can but it won't work.
Either way there is and always will be a way to breach your vehicle. Cell phone cloning has existed for ages. Breaching wireless routers the same.
Next you have to enter a RSA Secure ID PIN with your FOB
No, next they will regulate it and encrypt the signal better which will make people feel more safe and allow the hackers to unlock every vehicle with keyless entry. There is nothing known on earth that can not be hacked.
If you have a key they can also be bypassed. Key chip can be bypassed. Etc
I love keys. But push button is superior. We had a discussion last week I think were it was brought up that criminals aren't quite our best and brightest, so the more technology required the better. Anyone who has ever worked on an old steering column knows how easy it is to get around steering wheel locks and ignition switches. I had a motorcycle stolen from me back when I was a kid still living at home. It was in a quiet cul de sac with the bike parked up against the house under an awning in the middle of the day. It sucks, but that's what insurance is for. The only way to rate security is how much more is the risk and cost than the reward. I doubt actual criminals walk around with the device in the air. It's a passive device but it does have to become active to work, and just like there are smart garage door openers and dumb ones you can do the same with cars. Heck, I'll be most of you here with garage door openers have dumb tech ones, and that's for your house!!! Additionally if 50% of the time it works, that means 50% of the time it doesn't, so there is a solution, it just needs applied to the other 50% of cars. The article is polite and doesn't name names. I think they'd be doing a greater public service listing what vehicles it worked on so the companies have some public heat to improve their security.
I love keys. But push button is superior. We had a discussion last week I think were it was brought up that criminals aren't quite our best and brightest, so the more technology required the better. Anyone who has ever worked on an old steering column knows how easy it is to get around steering wheel locks and ignition switches. I had a motorcycle stolen from me back when I was a kid still living at home. It was in a quiet cul de sac with the bike parked up against the house under an awning in the middle of the day. It sucks, but that's what insurance is for. The only way to rate security is how much more is the risk and cost than the reward. I doubt actual criminals walk around with the device in the air. It's a passive device but it does have to become active to work, and just like there are smart garage door openers and dumb ones you can do the same with cars. Heck, I'll be most of you here with garage door openers have dumb tech ones, and that's for your house!!! Additionally if 50% of the time it works, that means 50% of the time it doesn't, so there is a solution, it just needs applied to the other 50% of cars. The article is polite and doesn't name names. I think they'd be doing a greater public service listing what vehicles it worked on so the companies have some public heat to improve their security.
I agree that the average thief would not have the device or patience to track a vehicle and clone the key while the owner walks by. But those who traffic in high end vehicles will have it all. Major car theft is very lucrative although many in the rural communities such as truck owners will never realize the extents it has reached in metropolitan America. I would have push button start in an instant and not worry about it if it were offered on the lowly Lariat SC. But my key will work fine, old habits are hard to change.
I love keys. But push button is superior. We had a discussion last week I think were it was brought up that criminals aren't quite our best and brightest, so the more technology required the better. Anyone who has ever worked on an old steering column knows how easy it is to get around steering wheel locks and ignition switches. I had a motorcycle stolen from me back when I was a kid still living at home. It was in a quiet cul de sac with the bike parked up against the house under an awning in the middle of the day. It sucks, but that's what insurance is for. The only way to rate security is how much more is the risk and cost than the reward. I doubt actual criminals walk around with the device in the air. It's a passive device but it does have to become active to work, and just like there are smart garage door openers and dumb ones you can do the same with cars. Heck, I'll be most of you here with garage door openers have dumb tech ones, and that's for your house!!! Additionally if 50% of the time it works, that means 50% of the time it doesn't, so there is a solution, it just needs applied to the other 50% of cars. The article is polite and doesn't name names. I think they'd be doing a greater public service listing what vehicles it worked on so the companies have some public heat to improve their security.
I wish that they'd pass - and ENFORCE - laws that would convince most criminals that crime does not pay, and take those who won't be convinced out of circulation. Permanently. The world be a much nicer place.
Mine got broken into the other night, was locked zero damage. Little ******* took my glock, little cash and my prescription. Hope to one day find the little fckr. My own fault for leaving stuff in there but it is what it is. But we got him on camera so maybe he will turn up.
In the footage you see a light come on in my truck. Then like 30 mins later he just gets in. Crazy.... my sunshade was up so didnt get a clear picture of his face.
Wow, so it was some type of electronic device that defeated the Ford security? I didn't think this is a real statistical possibility and you're the first person I've heard that was victimized by it. Better catch that little turd and find out how it was done. Sorry about the Glock. Note to self and everyone else... Leave nothing in the truck you care about.
Likely through the trucks wireless update system. I am sure if you can get the truck to connect to a fake network you would be able to load your own vehicle update much like forescan. Since the tuck is brand new it's highly unlikely they have closed all of the holes.
The fact you can modify code with forscan without decrypting and encrypting the software with a special key likely means it will be easy to hack.
Old days use to log into a persons open network then log into admin of the router. Change the password on admin access and put priority on your traffic then download torrents and movies. I am guessing this would not be more different scenario.
Mine got broken into the other night, was locked zero damage. Little ******* took my glock, little cash and my prescription. Hope to one day find the little fckr. My own fault for leaving stuff in there but it is what it is. But we got him on camera so maybe he will turn up.
Sorry to hear about that. It makes you feel very violated and vulnerable. At least you are not here in NY. All kinds of bad crap if a firearm is stolen, as if you were at fault. Hope they catch the perp so they can let him go to do it again. (sarcasm about the legal system, sorry)
Likely through the trucks wireless update system. I am sure if you can get the truck to connect to a fake network you would be able to load your own vehicle update much like forescan. Since the tuck is brand new it's highly unlikely they have closed all of the holes.
The fact you can modify code with forscan without decrypting and encrypting the software with a special key likely means it will be easy to hack.
Old days use to log into a persons open network then log into admin of the router. Change the password on admin access and put priority on your traffic then download torrents and movies. I am guessing this would not be more different scenario.
I think using word "likely" is a bit of stretch here. Forscan and the Sync wireless updates are completely different things. Sync wireless updates almost certainly use a private key to encrypt the payloads so you can't just upload a new firmware easily.
Yes, Forscan uses an unencrypted communication protocol but its also requires a wired interface. ODB2 is just a glorified serial port.
