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Old 12-05-2016, 10:21 AM
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1954 F250 223 Transmission Substitution

Greetings All,

I am restoring a 1954 F-250 with 223 6-cylinder.

The original transmission is a stump-puller in that it is really really geared down.

I would like to substitute a transmission that is a little more daily-driver and highway friendly.

I don't remember where or who, but someone suggested that a manual 1968-1971 Gran Torino transmission would be able to bolt up OK with the advantage of a top/center mounted gear shift and internal shift linkages.

Can anyone confirm this please?

Who could I contact that would know?

Would you have any other suggestions?

Thanks Again,

Bob
 
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:50 PM
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I'm guessing your axle ratio is 4.86:1, so unless you get an od trans you will be in the same boat. Pretty sure the Gran Torino transmission would be 1:1 in fourth just like your current set up
 
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I can't get my head around a Gran Torino with an integral shifter. I have to believe the 4-sp's in those would have been a T-10 with a bolt-on shifter linkage. Why that would be different than other T-10's used since the early 60's is a puzzle.

At any rate, the trucks with the bellhousing with motor mounts (like yours) had a deeper bellhousing, and used transmissions with longer input shafts, than any of the cars. If your truck has a 4-sp now, 1st gear is a granny gear that isn't normally used unless very heavily loaded. 2nd gear is about the same as 1st gear in Car transmissions.

I agree with Henry, the rear axle ratio is the real problem.
 
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:37 AM
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You could look for a 3 speed with Overdrive. They come up on the sites every now and then. Be sure to try to get it as complete as possible as some parts are $$$. OBTW cars are different you need one for a truck.
 
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A confession…

I have never driven this truck. I took over restoration when a friend passed away. It was he who wanted a different transmission.

3-5 of us would gather once a week or so, usually on Wednesday nights, for Boyz-Nite. Only one of us had any real “Gear Head” experience.

The recommendation regarding a substitute transmission, and which one would work came from a friend of a friend.

My description of the gear shift linkage of the Troino transmission is from a recollection of a conversation while having consumed more than one barley-pop.

I’m learning a lot!

Thanks for your patience.

Bob
 
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:39 AM
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Alot of hotrodder's that use flathead V8's use a Chevy S 10 trans. 4speed +o/d, and these are relativity cheap. Bruce
 
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Any Issues to deal with like:

What are the issues that need to be dealt with and how do you overcome such as:

Bolt-up/connection alignment?
Shaft diameter?
Number of teat on shaft?
Length of shaft?

Do you know of a trans that would work on a 1954 F250?

Would S 10 trans. work on 1954 F250? If not, what is the meaning of your post? I missed it.

Bob
 
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
I can't get my head around a Gran Torino with an integral shifter.

I have to believe the 4-sp's in those would have been a T-10 with a bolt-on shifter linkage. Why that would be different than other T-10's used since the early 60's is a puzzle.
No Borg-Warner T-10's were installed after 1966. Replaced by Ford 4 speed introduced in 1963 1/2 Galaxie along with 427 engine and fastback.

No 4 speed available in Torino after 1973.
 
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Bob, This may help:

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Your bell housing can be modified to accept a later trans.
 
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Starting New Thread...

I discovered some interesting facts when I pressed the gear-head in our group for more information regarding the existing transmission. He was the one who was basically leading the restoration.

Because this new information will send this thread into new direction I thought a whole new thread was called for.

Below is a link to that thread called 1954 F250 223 Transmission Substitution Part 2

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post16780036


Bob
 
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Old 12-10-2016, 08:52 AM
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Smile Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

Originally Posted by pholmes350
Bob, This may help:

HOME T

Your bell housing can be modified to accept a later trans.
Patrick,

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! . . . .
 
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