Dealership labor etc
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Dealership labor etc
A local shop (not dealership) just quoted me 185 for oil and fuel filter change
The dealership just quoted 260 for same. I know and trust the first shop just wondering about the discrepancy.
The Napa repair estimator guide just quoted me for the fuel filter between 122 and $230 broken down for parts between $49 and $137 and labor between 73 and $93. The same website quoted between $84 and $109 for oil change. That was just the parts and the labor quote it was zero dollars.
Does anyone understand or can explain to me the difference and estimates between these three? Secondly why is labor have Zero dollar charge on oil change?
The dealership just quoted 260 for same. I know and trust the first shop just wondering about the discrepancy.
The Napa repair estimator guide just quoted me for the fuel filter between 122 and $230 broken down for parts between $49 and $137 and labor between 73 and $93. The same website quoted between $84 and $109 for oil change. That was just the parts and the labor quote it was zero dollars.
Does anyone understand or can explain to me the difference and estimates between these three? Secondly why is labor have Zero dollar charge on oil change?
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Time really doesnt have much to do with it. I suffered paratrooping injuries in the service. I really didnt think it pertained to the thread, or I wouldve explained my decision to take it in to the shop. Since you were concerned about it, I assumed others were and answered honestly, so others dont wonder.
If it makes you feel any better, I just spent twenty minutes changing the air filter, for which I am now paying. For which the VA now pays me so I don't have to work on my vehicles. As much.
If it makes you feel any better, I just spent twenty minutes changing the air filter, for which I am now paying. For which the VA now pays me so I don't have to work on my vehicles. As much.
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It's the same as a gas vehicle... Pull drain plug, drain oil, replace drain plug. Same for the filter, just make sure you prefill it before screwing it on.
I pay $85-110 doing it myself with T6 Rotella and the Motorcraft filter.
I pay $85-110 doing it myself with T6 Rotella and the Motorcraft filter.
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I get my parts via fleet pricing (about halfway between wholesale and retail) and pay IIRC around $150 total for a diesel 7.3L oil change. But I suspect my fleet mechanic treats oil changes as a loss leader (something you lose a little money on in exchange for getting more work later) and so $185 sounds reasonable for someone doing the same.
$260 sounds more like "this is a PITA and we doubt you will return for other service but if you really want us to do it this is the price." Arguably reasonable in terms of a out of the blue job but unreasonable in the real world for a common/regular item that is performed more to get additional work rather than a way to make money by itself.
$260 sounds more like "this is a PITA and we doubt you will return for other service but if you really want us to do it this is the price." Arguably reasonable in terms of a out of the blue job but unreasonable in the real world for a common/regular item that is performed more to get additional work rather than a way to make money by itself.
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My oil changes cost me under $70. I do them myself and buy oil in bulk (5 gal buckets). I also buy my Motorcraft oil filters in bulk (boxes of 6). No tools needed since I have the Fumoto valve.
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I need to understand the different oil 5ype and viscosoties for diesel. I'm sure they're explained on these forums.
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Just had my shop change oil and filter. $165 - that was last week
BUT I always use Royal Purple and add a bottle of Prolong. The cost for parts was $147 and then $6 in HazMat fee (oil disposal) and $12 in tax - so $165.
He will make up for it as the Ex is BACK in the shop having all the rest of the fluids changed out AND the MAG-HYTEC covers put in place.
It won't be cheap, but something I only have to do once. Then from here on out, only normal maintenance. But I'm funny, when I purchase a new to me vehicle I always change out all the fluids so I have a KNOWN good starting point to go forward with.
BUT I always use Royal Purple and add a bottle of Prolong. The cost for parts was $147 and then $6 in HazMat fee (oil disposal) and $12 in tax - so $165.
He will make up for it as the Ex is BACK in the shop having all the rest of the fluids changed out AND the MAG-HYTEC covers put in place.
It won't be cheap, but something I only have to do once. Then from here on out, only normal maintenance. But I'm funny, when I purchase a new to me vehicle I always change out all the fluids so I have a KNOWN good starting point to go forward with.
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The MAG-HYTEC transmission pan does not benefit you. It is money better spent elsewhere. Toss an extra magnet in your stock pan if you want improvement there. The extra magnet I put in mine picked up a TON of debris and held it in place.
The differential covers are nice. They have a sight glass and dip stick added to them that makes routine maintenance a breeze on your front and rear axles.
The differential covers are nice. They have a sight glass and dip stick added to them that makes routine maintenance a breeze on your front and rear axles.
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[QUOTE=wallew;16737059]Just had my shop change oil and filter. $165 - that was last week
BUT I always use Royal Purple and add a bottle of Prolong. The cost for parts was $147 and then $6 in HazMat fee (oil disposal) and $12 in tax - so $165.
He will make up for it as the Ex is BACK in the shop having all the rest of the fluids changed out AND the MAG-HYTEC covers put in place.
It won't be cheap, but something I only have to do once. Then from here on out, only normal maintenance. But I'm funny, when I purchase a new to me vehicle I always change out all the fluids so I have a KNOWN good starting point to go forward with.[/QUOte
Ive been considering royal purple or amsoil. and will check out Prolong
this is my first oild change on this engine. or any civilian diesel for that matter
BUT I always use Royal Purple and add a bottle of Prolong. The cost for parts was $147 and then $6 in HazMat fee (oil disposal) and $12 in tax - so $165.
He will make up for it as the Ex is BACK in the shop having all the rest of the fluids changed out AND the MAG-HYTEC covers put in place.
It won't be cheap, but something I only have to do once. Then from here on out, only normal maintenance. But I'm funny, when I purchase a new to me vehicle I always change out all the fluids so I have a KNOWN good starting point to go forward with.[/QUOte
Ive been considering royal purple or amsoil. and will check out Prolong
this is my first oild change on this engine. or any civilian diesel for that matter
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The MAG-HYTEC transmission pan does not benefit you. It is money better spent elsewhere. Toss an extra magnet in your stock pan if you want improvement there. The extra magnet I put in mine picked up a TON of debris and held it in place.
The differential covers are nice. They have a sight glass and dip stick added to them that makes routine maintenance a breeze on your front and rear axles.
The differential covers are nice. They have a sight glass and dip stick added to them that makes routine maintenance a breeze on your front and rear axles.
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I believe they are talking about rare earth magnets that are strong. You can get them a lot of places.
My guess would be one that is about the size of a quarter with the thickness of two or three quarters. But again, it's just a guess.
Nicmike,
As I have stated in my other thread on MAG-HYTECH products, I want the extra 8 quarts of fluid that this pan allows. Perhaps you should say it doesn't benefit YOU. For ME, it does exactly what I wanted. MORE FLUID.
And to explain, have you EVER dumped your tranny fluid on the DOWNHILL SIDE of I-70 E coming out of the mountains after a great day of sight seeing with your inlaws? I DID. It was before cell phones. With fluid flying out the rear of the transmission (rear seal), and spewing onto a hot muffler causing all sorts of white smoke (at first I thought we were on fire). If I had a pan that held 8 more quarts I might have made it to the exit - as it was I coasted to a stop about a mile short and had to walk it. Leaving my wife and inlaws to wait for the tow truck. One mile downhill and one mile back all up hill.
SO yeah, I'm all about MORE lubrication over LESS lubrication. That's all.
I believe they are talking about rare earth magnets that are strong. You can get them a lot of places.
My guess would be one that is about the size of a quarter with the thickness of two or three quarters. But again, it's just a guess.
Nicmike,
As I have stated in my other thread on MAG-HYTECH products, I want the extra 8 quarts of fluid that this pan allows. Perhaps you should say it doesn't benefit YOU. For ME, it does exactly what I wanted. MORE FLUID.
And to explain, have you EVER dumped your tranny fluid on the DOWNHILL SIDE of I-70 E coming out of the mountains after a great day of sight seeing with your inlaws? I DID. It was before cell phones. With fluid flying out the rear of the transmission (rear seal), and spewing onto a hot muffler causing all sorts of white smoke (at first I thought we were on fire). If I had a pan that held 8 more quarts I might have made it to the exit - as it was I coasted to a stop about a mile short and had to walk it. Leaving my wife and inlaws to wait for the tow truck. One mile downhill and one mile back all up hill.
SO yeah, I'm all about MORE lubrication over LESS lubrication. That's all.