5spd manual swap for a 302
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I agree. I have a M5OD-R2 in my '91 F150 with 230,000 miles on it with no issues. Mine is behind a 300, but they are rated at the same torque as a 302.
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I think the ZF is a stronger transmission, but the M5 will probably be easier to find. I'm not sure what the overdrive gear ratio is in either of them, but I would expect them to be similar... so I would expect similar mileage. I get 15 - 17mpg with my 300/M5/3.25 combo... but I've heard of some guys getting as much as 18 or 19mpg with a 302/M5/3.55 combo.
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The ZF was made by Spicer (Dana) and is stronger. The M5R2 was made by Mazda and will work under F100 style of hauling or towing. If you use your rig like a F250 then I wouldn't do the M5R2.
One note of caution. On the back of the shift tower on top of the M5R2 trans there are 3 rubber plugs. With age they shrink and fall out. Then some of the tranny's oil comes out. I don't know if this is from splash or if it's because the oil is being slung all around in the tranny. Eventually enough to burn up the tranny. So all that have M5R2s out there check your plugs. All that are going JY hunting, make sure the tranny you're buying is still full of the old oil. If it's pretty low stay away. Then replace with fresh oil of course.
One note of caution. On the back of the shift tower on top of the M5R2 trans there are 3 rubber plugs. With age they shrink and fall out. Then some of the tranny's oil comes out. I don't know if this is from splash or if it's because the oil is being slung all around in the tranny. Eventually enough to burn up the tranny. So all that have M5R2s out there check your plugs. All that are going JY hunting, make sure the tranny you're buying is still full of the old oil. If it's pretty low stay away. Then replace with fresh oil of course.
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The ZF was made by Spicer (Dana) and is stronger. The M5R2 was made by Mazda and will work under F100 style of hauling or towing. If you use your rig like a F250 then I wouldn't do the M5R2.
One note of caution. On the back of the shift tower on top of the trans there are 3 rubber plugs. With age they shrink and fall out. Then some of the tranny's oil comes out. I don't know if this is from splash or if it's because the oil is being slung all around in the tranny. Eventually enough to burn up the tranny. So all that have M5R2s out there check your plugs. All that are going JY hunting, make sure the tranny you're buying is still full of the old oil. If it's pretty low stay away. Then replace with fresh oil of course.
One note of caution. On the back of the shift tower on top of the trans there are 3 rubber plugs. With age they shrink and fall out. Then some of the tranny's oil comes out. I don't know if this is from splash or if it's because the oil is being slung all around in the tranny. Eventually enough to burn up the tranny. So all that have M5R2s out there check your plugs. All that are going JY hunting, make sure the tranny you're buying is still full of the old oil. If it's pretty low stay away. Then replace with fresh oil of course.
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If you check into Gavin's F100 build
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...s-f100-16.html
he did a MR swap behind a 6cyl but did all the legwork for getting the hydraulic clutch set up installed.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...s-f100-16.html
he did a MR swap behind a 6cyl but did all the legwork for getting the hydraulic clutch set up installed.
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