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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 05:35 AM
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DEF Consumption

Wondering if any of you have the same observation as me: this 2017 truck uses considerably more DEF than the old generation.

I have 1800 miles on my truck and the DEF gauge is showing 50% remaining. The old truck would easily go 5k miles between DEF refills. Looks like I'll maybe get 4k miles, plus this tank is 2.5 gallons larger.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 06:13 AM
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Just more data:

At about a 3/4s of a tank and 1700 miles. Majority of my miles have been doing 65+ and unladen.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 06:18 AM
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My miles are 50% towing. Does the system use more while towing? Does it use more in cold or hot weather or no difference?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 06:24 AM
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Found this on a def FAQ sheet...

DEF consumption is directly related to fuel consumption. A truck averaging 6 MPG can expect to go approximately 300 miles on one gallon of DEF.

Q. How can an operator determine how much DEF they will need/use?
A. DEF consumption will be approximately 2% of the diesel fuel consumed. Another way to consider it is that DEF will be consumed on a 50 to 1 ratio with diesel. (For every 50 gallons of diesel fuel burned, you will use 1 gallon of DEF). If you know the average fuel consumption of a vehicle, you can easily calculate the amount of DEF that will be used.
Annual miles for average truck = 50,000 miles
MPG for average truck = 8 mpg
50,000 miles / 8 mpg = 6,250 gallons diesel fuel per year
DEF usage @ 2% of fuel consumption = 125 gallons of DEF / year 125 gallons / 10 gallon tank (average size) = 13 DEF fill-ups / year

By this math i have used 2.83 gallons of def. Seems legit
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 06:27 AM
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Definitely uses more when towing. Maybe it wasn't full when you bought it? Also the tank is larger on the 17's vs. last generation. My truck only has 700 miles but still shows full.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 06:34 AM
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Definitely uses more when towing. Maybe it wasn't full when you bought it? Also the tank is larger on the 17's vs. last generation. My truck only has 700 miles but still shows full.

My thoughts exactly. You will def burn a lot more while towing. Tyler, are you sure it was full on delivery?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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Just hit 1500 miles and DEF is right at 7/8 of a tank, haven't towed anything heavy yet but about 50/50 mix of city and highway driving. She will get a good breakin before heavy towing when I play musical tractors after hunting season.

On a side note doesn't the '17 have a 7.2 gal DEF tank?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 07:34 AM
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My thoughts exactly. You will def burn a lot more while towing. Tyler, are you sure it was full on delivery?
The gauge showed full. Maybe it can be "nearly full" and the gauge will still read full.

Fidel's comments make a little bit of sense - this truck definitely gets worse economy than my 2016 SRW - so maybe it is to be expected.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 09:23 AM
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I am closing in on 900 miles and my DEF gauge has moved very little. However, I am starting to smell more regens happening, at least once a day.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by troverman
The gauge showed full. Maybe it can be "nearly full" and the gauge will still read full.

Fidel's comments make a little bit of sense - this truck definitely gets worse economy than my 2016 SRW - so maybe it is to be expected.

Every new Ford I've ever had, gas or diesel, takes a few miles to break in. After that, MPG goes up quite a bit.

I see you've owned a passel as well. Do you recall if that was the case in your other trucks?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 09:46 AM
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Yeah...same here. My 2001 got 15/16 right out of the box...and the DEF lasted forever. My new '17 is moving between 13/14.5 for the first 500 miles or so. I've been doing some short trips...with one 200 miler in there. I was hoping to see that mpg bump up to 16 or 17 but it's just not happening yet. We'll see. My 2011 didn't need any "breaking in" to see decent mileage...or at least the mileage that it would average for the life of the truck. Can't really comment on DEF usage yet....but yeah....mpg is just not where I thought it would be.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 09:52 AM
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My computer is indicating 20.9 mpg after a tank of fuel with a lifetime average of 19.6. I have 2500 miles on my truck and my def is showing around 3/4 of a tank
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenv
Yeah...same here. My 2001 got 15/16 right out of the box...and the DEF lasted forever. My new '17 is moving between 13/14.5 for the first 500 miles or so. I've been doing some short trips...with one 200 miler in there. I was hoping to see that mpg bump up to 16 or 17 but it's just not happening yet. We'll see. My 2011 didn't need any "breaking in" to see decent mileage...or at least the mileage that it would average for the life of the truck. Can't really comment on DEF usage yet....but yeah....mpg is just not where I thought it would be.
Im seeing the same thing with mine.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 02:08 PM
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We should also share rear axle ratio. My 2017 was running about 14 to 15 mpg with a 3.55 axle when I first got it. I now have 900 miles on it and its gotten better, I've not hand calculated it but the computer says 16.5 for my last trip. My 2012 started out like this too, it finally maxed out around 17 for average mileage.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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I would say a majority of us with the 6.7 are running the 3.55....
 
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