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So the other day I ended up pulling an old Deere 4030 tractor weighing around 10k on a 2k lb trailer with my 92 f150 4wd 5.8 3.55 gears e4od. It was maybe 12 miles down mostly private roads.
The truck has an rv can but that's the only thing changed on it. I am running 32x10.50s how much stress did I really put on the truck? It seems to be driving fine tho I will definitely not be doing that again. Flat to the floor I was doing 35 up most hills. The motor never hit 3k. Transmission seems to be shifting fine (knock on wood)
Also could an f350 97 PS haul a timberjack 225b weighing 8tons on a 4k lb equipment trailer (gooseneck)
The truck has an rv can but that's the only thing changed on it. I am running 32x10.50s how much stress did I really put on the truck? It seems to be driving fine tho I will definitely not be doing that again. Flat to the floor I was doing 35 up most hills. The motor never hit 3k. Transmission seems to be shifting fine (knock on wood)
Also could an f350 97 PS haul a timberjack 225b weighing 8tons on a 4k lb equipment trailer (gooseneck)
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The trans I am sure gave up some of it's life for you. Check the fluid and make sure it is not burnt.
Otherwise I think you are ok based upon what you were doing. I would not do that again either.
Obviously the same thing will apply to the 97 F350. It will be overloaded as well, but not near as much and should do fine depending upon distance, route.
Again my not go all that fast but should be reasonable.
Otherwise I think you are ok based upon what you were doing. I would not do that again either.
Obviously the same thing will apply to the 97 F350. It will be overloaded as well, but not near as much and should do fine depending upon distance, route.
Again my not go all that fast but should be reasonable.
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I'd say you are very lucky you still have a transmission. Also lucky some nimrod didn't pull out in front of you while texting on their phone, and put the whole mess of you into a ditch. And you put a 10K tractor on a trailer that only weighs 2K? Have you checked those trailer axles to see if you bent them?
At least an 8K tractor on a 4K trailer should be fine, especially if you watch how much pin weight you put over the goose ball. I'm assuming the 350 is a SRW, since you didn't say "dually"? Just watch your rear axle weight on the truck.
At least an 8K tractor on a 4K trailer should be fine, especially if you watch how much pin weight you put over the goose ball. I'm assuming the 350 is a SRW, since you didn't say "dually"? Just watch your rear axle weight on the truck.
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Was the 2,000 pound trailer rated to haul that tractor? Did the trailer have working trailer brakes? Did the pickup have a working brake controller to activate the trailer brakes? Was the tractor adequately secured to the trailer?
Gravity does not count as load securement.
Gravity does not count as load securement.
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. could be time to replace the catalytic converter?
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I'd be more concerned with the lightweight trailers you're using than anything else. 10,000 on a 2k trailer, 16,000 on a 4k trailer? Are you nuts?
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What you are doing is DANGEROUS, yes you got away with it but the outcome could have easily been very different. Remember the capacity on a 4K trailer is not a 4K load, let alone 16K, it is 4K including the weight of the empty trailer. You are taking too much chance with your life and the lives of others, it is not worth the risk!
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not knowing sure is BLISS...
the transmission does have problems... it should have shifted till engine went to red-line.
then there is the Heat buildup in transmission..
trailer axles may be bent... even tire damage to trailer tires.
you are lucky... the receiver on the truck was not ripped off the frame.
and Brakes... how fast do you think you could stop with all that weight with car brakes.
Blessed and very lucky.
the transmission does have problems... it should have shifted till engine went to red-line.
then there is the Heat buildup in transmission..
trailer axles may be bent... even tire damage to trailer tires.
you are lucky... the receiver on the truck was not ripped off the frame.
and Brakes... how fast do you think you could stop with all that weight with car brakes.
Blessed and very lucky.
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What you are doing is DANGEROUS, yes you got away with it but the outcome could have easily been very different. Remember the capacity on a 4K trailer is not a 4K load, let alone 16K, it is 4K including the weight of the empty trailer. You are taking too much chance with your life and the lives of others, it is not worth the risk!
The main assumption is I've never seen a gooseneck trailer rated below 5K, usually they are rated 10,000 or more, though there may be a specialty trailer of some sort that differs.
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You guys are rehashing a two year old thread in which the OP never posted again. LOL!
I would have worried about the leaf springs and brackets. I pulled a similar load with my half ton and broke a bracket.
I would have worried about the leaf springs and brackets. I pulled a similar load with my half ton and broke a bracket.
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You got me...
.. I missed that part.
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