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So, per the final guide and the website, the maximum payload for an F350 SRW 4x4 CC SB 6.7L is 3,920. The Prior MY was 3,800, so the new truck is approximately 120lbs. lighter.
Given that my 2015 has a 3,315 payload, I assume a similarly configured 2017 Platinum will have a payload of 3,435. (NOTE: A long bed will be 240lbs. heavier, so its 2017 payload would be reduced to 3,195 - which is very similar to the stickers and materials Ford has published.)
I believe this is definitive proof that, absent a GVWR increase in a later round of production, Ram and GM still lead the market in SRW payloads. And not by a small amount, by around 400lbs (10-15%)!
Comparing the data with my existing F350 Platinum Crew Cab 160" WB
As others have said, IF the sticker matches the table link given, then the truck should be +230# Rear Load and same Front with Snow Plow Option as I read it...
I guess I need to find where they hide the gold bars in the noses of these toy haulers. Man are they heavy!
There's heavy, and then there's pin heavy. While I can be over 20k fully loaded, my pin is never over 2900# which keeps me in SRW territory. The heaviest GAWR I've got is 6400#. So, if stickergate fails me, I'm still safe with a SRW. My trailer is unique though and most haulers are MUCH heavier on the pin....
Looking at the 3103# payload from the previous shows (lwb 6.7 4x4 platinum ultimate) and the max (base) payload (3680#) in this document, it seems that the Platinum + ultimate package + hitch prep adds 577#. 3680-3103=577
Starting with a base truck, I need the roughly the following payload:
Platinum + ultimate package + hitch prep: 577
Passengers + dog: 900
Hitch: 150
Firewood (optional): 200
Empty trailer pin: 2200
Misc stuff in truck: 50
Gear in camper adding to pin: 500
Total: 577+900+150+200+2200+50+500= 4577#
Max payload for the LWB 4x4 Crew 6.7: 3680#
Shortfall for SRW: 897# ==> need a dually even though I'd rather have a SRW
I could probably trim a hundred pounds or two, but not nine hundred pounds.
BTW, the other way of looking at it is to just take the 3103# payload of the platinum and not bother adding in the 577# package weight. 3103-900-150-200-2200-50-500= -897 (897# over)
Rodney,
In your case, I figure with you will be well over your gvwr/payload as well.
Pin: 2900
Hitch: 150
Passengers + cargo = X
Total = 3050 + X. You have only 53# for passengers + cargo to stay under the 3103# payload of a lrw 4x4 srw platinum. Wouldn't you be over the 11,500# GVWR (& payload rating) by several hundred pounds also? I know that you'll certainly be OK with tire, axle and GCVW though.
If I'm doing something wrong with my calculations, please let me know.
That one is configured almost exactly as I'd want. It only needs the 150# hitch and it's good to go. It just doesn't have enough payload for me. After adding the hitch, you've only got 2953# for passengers, cargo and pin. I thought getting a camper with a 1940# spec, 2200# measured pin (when totally empty) would work with a SRW. Nearly all of the storage in a fifth wheel camper is just behind the pinbox (closet in the master bedroom, front center bucket and front side buckets), so the pin often gets at least 500# heavier by the time you are fully loaded.
The 4.30 6.7 4x4 is fun to drive (at least the 2016 ones I test drove) and the 2017 F450 looks great, so maybe a dually won't be so bad. I'm good at parking, but I'll need to become excellent with a 22'2" long 8' wide truck
wow If my figures are right and the 577 for the f250 platinum is the same weight as the 350 platinum, and I use our actual weight of passengers. with my ultralight trailer Ill be over by 72 lbs. better than the 900 lbs over on my f150, I have 500lbs of handicap lift and scooter in the bed to begin with, + and estimated 65 lbs for Linex, and 150 for a shell. then 800 for tongue weight. If I use fords 150 each for passengers I am fine. Problem is we don't weigh 150. Should have ordered the High capacity tow, dealer says it is too late.
In your case, I figure with you will be well over your gvwr/payload as well.
Pin: 2900
Hitch: 150
Passengers + cargo = X
Total = 3050 + X. You have only 53# for passengers + cargo to stay under the 3103# payload of a lrw 4x4 srw platinum. Wouldn't you be over the 11,500# GVWR (& payload rating) by several hundred pounds also? I know that you'll certainly be OK with tire, axle and GCVW though.
If I'm doing something wrong with my calculations, please let me know.
No, I likely wouldn't be over GVWR unless the new truck weighs more than 240# more than my current one but, according to Ford's specs, a base 17 CC only weighs 77# more than the previous generation SC. The most my truck has weighed while hooked up to the RV, full tank of fuel, and all passengers and cargo in, is 11260#. I figure between that 240# and the 350# +/- aluminum weight savings, I have 590# to cover going from a super cab to a crew cab. Now, according to Ford's ever changing 2017 specs, the crew cab weighs approximately 260# more than the super cab. That leaves me 330# =/- of the supposed weight savings as my buffer. Of course I'll need to verify that before making a decision. I am not getting a long bed or platinum so that saves some weight over your configuration though...
A side note to my current setup at the 11260# max I mentioned is that is with my garage empty and my pin as heavy as it will ever be. I RARELY travel without at least my 1000# golf cart in the garage and often with my two 1000# CanAm Spyders back there. That drops my pin to around 2550# or less...
IMO, you're doing way too much planning based on estimates. Take a new truck that has your configuration and options to the scales. Then, load your RV like you're ready to camp and spend $150 on a Sherline tongue/pin weight scale. (This will tell you if you are OK GVWR wise not GCWR, but with 28700, I'm sure you'll be fine in that dept...) You may find your estimates are off. You may find they are very accurate too but I personally wouldn't make this kind of decision without hard facts.
I did buy the Sherline scale; propride had them on sale. They are a really cool design. That's how I know my pin is 2200# with the camper totally empty (brand new). A cut 4x4, floor jack, Sherline scale, and 60 seconds and now the guesswork is done.
Camping season ends for me at the end of October. I'll move my supplies to my new camper and have a better idea on loaded weight then. I also need to put 20 gallons of water (or so) in the 2 black tanks, and 10 gallons in the fresh tank, and a few gallons in the 3 gray tanks to see how that impacts the pin as that is how my camper sits between trips. That test I can do this weekend.
If the Ford specs are close to correct, I will be at least 500# over when loading light though.
Comparing the data with my existing F350 Platinum Crew Cab 160" WB
