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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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01 v10 Problem

I have a 2001 F250 with a v10 4x4 thats low on power. ( 124k miles on it. )
Seems to drive "ok"(still seems doggy) unloaded but when i pull my boat(16ft tri hull) its a dog. Flat ground isnt bad, but any hill drops me down in speed fast. When i get on it and it down shifts i loose speed .

Truck Has a 2 inch lift. 35's. Ive re geared from 373 to 430. SPD Y pipe. No catalytic converter. Magnaflow exhaust.

Compression is 125-145 ( all plugs removed when tested) . Fuel pressure is 32ish at idle and 40-42 at WOT.(under loads). No check engine lights. New plugs. Fuel and air filter. Fresh tranny service.

Its been to 2 shops and the tranny shop. They say all is good.

Ive pulled about 7000k behind the truck off and on and it used to pull great. What gives? Any ideas?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 07:20 AM
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You clean the MAF? Check for possible vacuum leaks?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamnd1
You clean the MAF? Check for possible vacuum leaks?
MAF was cleaned when i changed the filter( And it responds as it should on my scanner) . No vacuum leaks. And it holds steady on the gauge at an idle.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 11:48 AM
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What did you use to check for codes? I believe that some early years of the V10 can have codes or issues that do not set off engine light or a code. Some codes can only be read with a professional reader. Did you check or replace any coils during plug change?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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I agree with Diamnd1 above. These 6.8's can have one misfiring cylinder and it's not too obvious.
If you carefully feel the engine, a misfire will create just a bit of stumbling when idling.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 12:29 PM
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I was planning on replacing all the coil packs next. But was looking for other options. The scanner used was a snap on my dad owns. And a Cheapy I own I paid about 400$ for. The truck seems to have a slight roughness while sitting idling . But nothing super noticable. I was told that sometimes coils can begin to fail but are hard to notice at higher rpms and won't throw a check engine light or code
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 12:59 PM
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Replacing all 10 will be pricey. If you can find someone that has a prof. scanner, it may indicate which are bad before dropping coin on all.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Diamnd1
Replacing all 10 will be pricey. If you can find someone that has a prof. scanner, it may indicate which are bad before dropping coin on all.

That's why I took it to a few.shops. they told me everything was good and that the v10 is just a dog. They said everything was within spec
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by theivan28
I was planning on replacing all the coil packs next. But was looking for other options. The scanner used was a snap on my dad owns. And a Cheapy I own I paid about 400$ for. The truck seems to have a slight roughness while sitting idling . But nothing super noticable. I was told that sometimes coils can begin to fail but are hard to notice at higher rpms and won't throw a check engine light or code
I've had bad cop's that wouldn't pop a code until I really stomped on it accelerating up an on ramp.
Keep in mind that coil pack springs will rust out, especially after they get a bit of moisture in the hole due to slight manifold leaks.
We had to replace my brothers 7 or 8 cop and it was almost in pieces when we pulled the boot off.
If you have an IR test or, a misfire will have a slightly cooler exhaust manifold temp.
You have a good obd II test or to detect any codes present. No need to spend more money.
 
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Originally Posted by r2millers
I've had bad cop's that wouldn't pop a code until I really stomped on it accelerating up an on ramp.
Keep in mind that coil pack springs will rust out, especially after they get a bit of moisture in the hole due to slight manifold leaks.
We had to replace my brothers 7 or 8 cop and it was almost in pieces when we pulled the boot off.
If you have an IR test or, a misfire will have a slightly cooler exhaust manifold temp.
You have a good obd II test or to detect any codes present. No need to spend more money.
All the boots and coils looked good when I replaced the plugs.no rust all dry ( I live in az humidity isn't a problem) I've been really getting on it alot because I have to or the truck won't move.. so still no codes. No stored or pending.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 01:28 PM
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Will a bad injector make the check engine light come on?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by theivan28
Will a bad injector make the check engine light come on?
As I stated earlier, I really had to get on it to finally pop a code.
In CA, an emissions related issues will activate the cel, eventually.
Not sure if the same applies to AZ programmed vehicles.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 11:41 AM
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Went to start it this morning. And it was really stumbling , still no CEL. But seemed to smooth slightly out after it warmed up. I drove it like I stole it on the way to work . Still a dgo and seems like the torque converter was jumping in and out in 2ND and 3rd from.1200 to 2500 rpms
 
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 11:55 AM
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A bad cop will give you that tranny feel you talk about.
If not a fuel pressure issue or vacuum leak, it's got to be a cop/plug issue.
 
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