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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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Great study. I started doing the TC oil right after that. Of course I would have liked to see some good synthetic 2C oil in the test.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 01:47 PM
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10 year old info does nothing for me.
AFAIK, the info hasn't changed as far as relevance, useability, or application.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 02:01 PM
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Yup. Hasn't changed much. Besides fuel getting worse. Lol
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 03:04 PM
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10 years ago when that survey was done there was almost no additives put into ULSD. then they realized there was no lubrication in it and people were having all kinds of problems. the ULSD of today is nothing like the ULSD of 10 years ago.
any lubrication needs of any engine made are more than met by todays fuel.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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I had know idea things changed.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
10 years ago when that survey was done there was almost no additives put into ULSD. then they realized there was no lubrication in it and people were having all kinds of problems. the ULSD of today is nothing like the ULSD of 10 years ago.
any lubrication needs of any engine made are more than met by todays fuel.
I hear you Tom and don't disagree, but the additive study still applies here since it addresses information about the additives IMO
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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The last additive upgrade that I see was back in 2005. Can you point me to the new information please? Love learning new stuff!
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 04:49 PM
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when ULSD was mandated back in 2006, there were very few additives put into it, which resulted in low lubricity. this in turn resulted in injector and injector pump failures. within 6 months the fuel refinerys started adding lubricants, and by the end of 2007 ULSD actually had more lubricants than the old high sulfur fuel. and has stayed that was ever since. the bigger issue is that diesel fuel cetane ratings dropped form over 60 to between 40 and 45.
the higher the cetane number, faster the ignition delay, resulting in more efficient fuel burn. the lower the cetane number, the longer the ignition delay, resulting is less efficient fuel burn.
more efficient burn results in better fuel mileage.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 04:56 PM
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So the study was published August 2007. Does anyone know whether it was before or after the refineries added lubricity additives?

Note, too, that the study is about lubricity, but includes products like Power Service DK, which makes no lubricity claims. It's a cetane boost and, in the case of the white bottle, an anti-gel product. Ranking it low in the study is like including cherry juice in a study of transmission fluids and ranking it low.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 05:03 PM
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In 2005 (as far as I can see) the standards were set for ULSD fuel. I don't see anything else beyond that.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 06:09 PM
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that study was done before/during the refineries realizing there was a major problem and started adding lubricants to the fuel.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 06:55 PM
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I don't think so. If you could, point me to your information.
ULSD has been around for a long time. So long in fact, most overseas engine manufacturers had to make US spec engines to deal with our high Sulfur content fuel.
I dunno. I am no expert though.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 07:11 PM
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american vehicles were not made to overseas specs though.
american vehicles were designed to run on ULSD only when it was mandated for use here.
with the exception of hong kong (2000) and sweden (1990) almost all foreign countries did not mandate ULSD until 2010, and some were even later in 2012 and 2015.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 11:46 PM
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Thanks Byron! I was looking for this the other day
 
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 01:27 AM
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Thanks Byron! I was looking for this the other day
Word Jarrett!
 
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