Separate 4x2 from 4x4 Excursion (threads)
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Separate 4x2 from 4x4 Excursion (threads)
They are a whole different ballgame IMO. They do totally different jobs.
My 4x2 is for daily driving(not that much, I'm retired), and towing a Travel trailer. It is perfect for this task, and there isn't a whole lot to add to the pkg you get from Ford.
The 4x4 tends to be a beast, jacked up, huge tires, etc. added roof lights, etc.
I realize this could be a short thread, but it really does seem like a different animal.
My 4x2 is for daily driving(not that much, I'm retired), and towing a Travel trailer. It is perfect for this task, and there isn't a whole lot to add to the pkg you get from Ford.
The 4x4 tends to be a beast, jacked up, huge tires, etc. added roof lights, etc.
I realize this could be a short thread, but it really does seem like a different animal.
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How you use it is a personal decision,
mechanically, capacity and capability wise they are similar. So much so a 4x2 is easy to bolt on the 4x4 components and a 4x4 is easily converted to a 4x2 with factory parts. If you wanted to take it even further you could say the Excursion is just a Body package since the drivetrain is really the same as the f250 trucks.
mechanically, capacity and capability wise they are similar. So much so a 4x2 is easy to bolt on the 4x4 components and a 4x4 is easily converted to a 4x2 with factory parts. If you wanted to take it even further you could say the Excursion is just a Body package since the drivetrain is really the same as the f250 trucks.
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Yeah, I suppose, but I have no use for all the off road equipt threads is all. kinda selfish, and that's why I thought it may be a short thread.
As far as the body pkg., my Ex is considerably lower(8.6" ground clearance)than an F250, so I don't know what they did to lower it, but it rides low, and you sit high.....
As far as the body pkg., my Ex is considerably lower(8.6" ground clearance)than an F250, so I don't know what they did to lower it, but it rides low, and you sit high.....
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Just looking at the first page here, the only topic that maybe could be considered "off-road" is the roof rack topic..and technically that does apply to both. So I am thinking that maybe it is not necessary...but that is my opinion.
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Yeah, I suppose, but I have no use for all the off road equipt threads is all. kinda selfish, and that's why I thought it may be a short thread.
As far as the body pkg., my Ex is considerably lower(8.6" ground clearance)than an F250, so I don't know what they did to lower it, but it rides low, and you sit high.....
As far as the body pkg., my Ex is considerably lower(8.6" ground clearance)than an F250, so I don't know what they did to lower it, but it rides low, and you sit high.....
The irony of your request is if you were to go and read all of the 2wd specific threads you will see a high percentage of them are asking about either lifting the 2wd or converting to it to 4x4.
Ford equipped all the excursions with leaf springs that have less arch and therefore less ride height then the f250. In the case of the 2wd excursion I do not know the exact coil spring lengths but they are similar.
Anyhow the quick (non tech) answer is the excursion is the same chassis and drivetrain as a f250 but with shorter springs so they sit lower.
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Shorter and de-arched springs with a different rate IIRC. The Excursion was originally intended for the soccer mom with a compromise towards the soccer dad so he would've be stuck in a minivan. In following order, the ride height was lowered for garage parking and the springs softened up for 'comfort'.
Without a doubt however, I have noticed pretty much every single 2wd X I have seen is absolutely bone stock, not even headlights swapped out. Small exception of Razzi's and some FTE members. But the general public? All stockers. The 4x4's are the ones getting modified, lifted, different exhaust, etc. some crazy, some wild.
Personal use, tastes, and desires dictate which way a vehicle will go. For me, 2wd trucks have been pointless unless I plan to pre-runner or airbag it to within an inch of its life. I just prefer the naturally higher stance and firmer suspension of a 4x4.
Without a doubt however, I have noticed pretty much every single 2wd X I have seen is absolutely bone stock, not even headlights swapped out. Small exception of Razzi's and some FTE members. But the general public? All stockers. The 4x4's are the ones getting modified, lifted, different exhaust, etc. some crazy, some wild.
Personal use, tastes, and desires dictate which way a vehicle will go. For me, 2wd trucks have been pointless unless I plan to pre-runner or airbag it to within an inch of its life. I just prefer the naturally higher stance and firmer suspension of a 4x4.
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The shocks valving however was "softened up" for comfort.
Example
Excursion 4x4 rear leaf spring 420lb in rate
f250 4x4 rear leaf main spring 320lb in rate
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Cool beans, I mean stuff! I really like how it drives. I have had 2 different long beds over the last 10 years and I am NOT a fan of empty long bed driving. The 4x2 Exc fits me perfectly. 6'0" 220 with no other use than towing a 25 ft 6000 lbs TT and getting me around town...
The real secret here is, now I can get the biggest TT there is. Not that I would, but that I could!
The real secret here is, now I can get the biggest TT there is. Not that I would, but that I could!
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Oh, you mean like this?
That TT is 41' from the tip of the hitch to the rear bumper and weighs 11,000lbs. Our EX serves as it's dedicated tow vehicle, it almost never leaves the driveway without the TT and it never get driven on our salty Winter roads.
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Putting a separate 2-wheel drive sub forum in the Excursion forum will never happen.
The only difference between a 4x4 Ex versus a 4x2 Ex is the front suspension, not nearly enough difference to have its own sub forum.
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The only difference between a 4x4 Ex versus a 4x2 Ex is the front suspension, not nearly enough difference to have its own sub forum.
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Originally Posted by CharlyG
It can't be the only difference or the back would be lower, or higher depending on perspective, than the front.
I'm thinking spring height if nothing else.
I'm thinking spring height if nothing else.
Are there differences in spring rates? Sure, but when rear leaf springs from a 4x4 rig can interchange and swap onto a 4x2 rig, then there is no rear suspension difference between the two.
Now, if there had been a major upgrade to the Ex like the SuperDuty trucks got (suspension, engine, trans, and exterior body, then yes, that's a very big difference and we would create a sub forum for it.
But never for a small difference like the front suspension on a rig.
If that were the criteria, we'd have 4x2 sub forums in the SuperDuty truck forums.
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Ok, I get it. I'm on the other end of the spectrum on upgrades since I only have a 3 ton TT. Stereo comes first! Then the muffler, and then shocks if needed. I play bass guitar so I'm a tone guy! If the tunes/tones are rockin' everything else is cake!
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What do you in mind for a system ?
I am sort of old school and have a 12" JL audio w7 in the JL enclosure. I want to ditch the huge box and do a built in sub but all the shops around here just bum me out so the project doesn't make much progress.
I am sort of old school and have a 12" JL audio w7 in the JL enclosure. I want to ditch the huge box and do a built in sub but all the shops around here just bum me out so the project doesn't make much progress.