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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 04:31 PM
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Odd ball carb - need a kit

Mike's Carbs has never seen one of these so I thought I'd ask you guys if you have. It's a Holley 2300 that came off a 59 F100 in a junk yard. I plan to rebuild it for my 292. The engine it came from was a Y block, with crossover, that had Mercury valve covers. The numbers stamped on the air horn are B9AE9510ASX, LIST 2065-N and 6R 1924-3-B.

B9 is obviously the Ford number but they've never seen one that ended in ASX before. The LIST number is the Holley number but they've never seen a 2065 that ends in N before and 6R 1924 is also a Holley number but the only one they can find like it is 1924A. Any help would be appreciated!
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 06:03 PM
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Mike's Carbs has never seen one of these so I thought I'd ask you guys if you have. It's a Holley 2300 that came off a 59 F100 in a junk yard. I plan to rebuild it for my 292. The engine it came from was a Y block, with crossover, that had Mercury valve covers. The numbers stamped on the air horn are B9AE9510ASX, LIST 2065-N and 6R 1924-3-B.

B9 is obviously the Ford number but they've never seen one that ended in ASX before. The LIST number is the Holley number but they've never seen a 2065 that ends in N before and 6R 1924 is also a Holley number but the only one they can find like it is 1924A. Any help would be appreciated!


As far as I'm aware it was used on the 292 in cars and trucks. Not that uncommon really.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 10:20 PM
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ASX carb

Are you saying the 2300 is common? Yes, of course it is. What about the ASX variant?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 03:49 AM
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Are you saying the 2300 is common? Yes, of course it is. What about the ASX variant?


Well it's not small block chevy common but it is not rare either, of the 4 Holley 2BBL's I have from y blocks 2 have the asx suffex, most of the ones I have come across at swap meets were ASX suffex, in fact there are a couple others on Ebay right now.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 07:18 AM
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Thanks for your reply Matthew. Thats odd. I turned up very little in a Google search but you're seeing them everywhere. Out of 122 hits on ebay for holley 2300 only one carb has the ASX suffix. It did show up 4 times since it was listed on 4 different ebay urls (UK, CA, TV, etc). Unfortunately the lister didn't know fitment. None showed up in a historical ebay search.

Most of the other Google hits seem to be scammers hijacking this one ebay listing as if they are selling it.

I'm hoping somebody knows actual fitment info so I can order the kit by vehicle. I'm guessing it was only on a 59 Mercury 312. NumberDummy?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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A part number that the suffix ends with an X usually denotes a rebuild.

I don't have a 1959 Mercury parts catalog, but since the prefix denotes a Ford Passenger Car (B9AE), the kit would be for it.

Strictly for a Mercury, the prefix would be B9ME
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 12:36 PM
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What am I missing, the carburetor kits are designed to fit a broad range of carbs. Shouldn't really be an issue. If the carb is well worn it may need to have throttle shaft bushings installed, this is kind of a showstopper otherwise.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 12:37 PM
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Thank you NumberDummy. This is starting to make sense. Mike's Carb shop said

"B9AE-AS is a good carburetor number but it isn't in our manufacturers catalog for kits, sorry."

So, ASX might not actually be the part number but an indication that I have an AS carb that's been factory rebuilt and restamped?

I see the AS # listed there but it has a different parts listing # than all the rest. Is there any way to know what's different? Odds are pretty good that I wouldn't want whatever was different about it, so, my next question is, do you think a kit for a 9510A model work just as well?

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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 12:52 PM
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Here's one on that auction site for 85 bucks (too much but..) they can't be too rare. It's difficult to imagine the gaskets from any 2300 rebuild kit wouldn't work, or a float, or Holley jets, power valve etc.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Holley-2300-2-...-/172020021529
 
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Following info from 1949/59 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog.

Upper pic: Column left, 9th entry from the bottom of the page: B9AE-9510-AS - Parts list 113

Lower pic: Scroll down to 1st page of parts list 113:

C2TZ-9A586-D .. Carburetor Tune Up Kit (not shown: replaced by C2TZ-9A586-L / Motorcraft CT-185) / Obsolete

HAVEN FORD in Haven KS has 1 = 620-465-2252.

EVANS FORD in Carrolton IL has 1 = 800-942-3616.

FEYER FORD in Edenton NC has 2 = 252-482-2144.
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B9A-9590-C .. Master Carburetor Overhaul Kit (not shown: replaced by B9AZ-9590-F) / Obsolete

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 2 = 800-543-4959.

B9A-9590-C = GREEN SALES CO. has 1.
 
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Hell, you can make your own gaskets from a cereal box if ya have to. NAPA and everybody sells gasket material if you want the good stuffs.
 
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Thank you Tedster, you've been very helpful. Of course I saw and referenced the one on ebay earlier. Despite the fact that it hits your google search 100x it is the only reference to one I've been able to find. If you are missing something it may be that, and the fact that I have it from a reputable carb shop that they do not have and can not get a kit for this carb. That's why I didn't just tell them to sell me a different 2300 kit. They have 100 cross reference part numbers for the 2300 kits they sell and this is not one of them. Also, since I'm rebuilding the carb I will need more than a gasket. Again, thank you.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 01:33 PM
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Thanks NumberDummy. I ordered the replacement kit. Much appreciate that you offer this valuable service for us.
 
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Well there's actually several gaskets but the point still stands. I'm struggling to think of something that wouldn't work to rebuild. The float is standard, although not included in a rebuild kit. Power valve is standard. Jets are standard Holley prior to '65. Accelerator pump may be an issue, needle and seat might be an issue, but I doubt it. That's why they are such great carbs, they are so simple. I don't mean to sound cross but this shouldn't be a big deal afaik. If there are unobtanium parts involved, the rebuild kits available may be dry rotted by now. Modern fuels play hell with vintage rubber. If it's an oddball carb you might be money ahead getting another 2300.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 02:16 PM
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The float is standard, although not included in a rebuild kit. Power valve is standard. Jets are standard Holley prior to '65. Accelerator pump may be an issue, needle and seat might be an issue, but I doubt it.
I didn't know they were all the same. I only knew Mike's said they didn't have it. Most of what I know about carbs is motorcycle related, though, I did rebuild an Autolite 4100 once, with the help of parts and a great video from Mike's Carb shop. I expect with ND pointing me in the right direction I'll get the right parts and get it rebuilt.

If it's an oddball carb you might be money ahead getting another 2300.
Yes, 2300s are on dozens of engines at the yard I go to so I would have grabbed another one if this one didn't work out. I just wanted some help determining that before I wasted my time rebuilding this carb with the wrong kit. Again, thank you for your help.
 
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