Notices
Excursion - King of SUVs 2000 - 2005 Ford Excursion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Door locks cycling?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 7, 2016 | 03:21 PM
  #1  
Hasbro61's Avatar
Hasbro61
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: oklahoma
Door locks cycling?

Hey guys.. i have a 2002 excursion xlt 4x4 v10

The door locks quit working. The previous owner did the tin foil repair... i replaced the four door actuators today.
Now all of the doors lock and unlock on the manual buttons. The fob doesnt work on any door.. when i try and use the door code pad, the locks go into a cycle.. the keep trying to operate by themselves. I had to disconnect the battery to get it to stop.
For the life of me, i can't find the door lock relays. I have most of the dash out. Can anyone please tell me where these are, or do you think it is something else?

Thanks
 
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2016 | 05:47 PM
  #2  
Hasbro61's Avatar
Hasbro61
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: oklahoma
Just added information; When the door locks went out... they all went out at the same time. The fob stopped working and the door pad stopped working and all of the door lock buttons. The only button that would work was the driver side button, it only lock/unlocked the driver side door and it was extremely weak.
I changed out the actuators and all of the manual buttons work now, and they are all a strong operation. Right now, the fob doesnt work and if i use the door pad it goes into the cont cycle.
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2016 | 04:09 PM
  #3  
Hasbro61's Avatar
Hasbro61
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: oklahoma
Originally Posted by Hasbro61
Just added information; When the door locks went out... they all went out at the same time. The fob stopped working and the door pad stopped working and all of the door lock buttons. The only button that would work was the driver side button, it only lock/unlocked the driver side door and it was extremely weak.
I changed out the actuators and all of the manual buttons work now, and they are all a strong operation. Right now, the fob doesnt work and if i use the door pad it goes into the cont cycle.
No help? Bump
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2016 | 05:07 PM
  #4  
pirate4x4_camo's Avatar
pirate4x4_camo
Lead Driver
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,259
Likes: 346
From: Northern California
There was a somewhat recent thread discussing the module that receives the fob signal and how it interacts with the GEM but I only glanced at it. Perhaps some clues could be found in that discussion.
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2016 | 02:52 AM
  #5  
Country_Mouse's Avatar
Country_Mouse
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 949
Likes: 1
From: SoCal
Have you tried reprogramming the fobs? Maybe something happened that cleared them. Will your Ex enter programming mode?
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2016 | 06:21 AM
  #6  
Hasbro61's Avatar
Hasbro61
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: oklahoma
Originally Posted by Country_Mouse
Have you tried reprogramming the fobs? Maybe something happened that cleared them. Will your Ex enter programming mode?
No... ididn't try to reprogram the fob. The door pad quit working, as well, when this all went haywire. When i got home from work yesterday, i opened the drivers door and all of the locks started cycling on their own. Must be a short or something. I took it to an auto electric shop... i will let yall know if they find the problem.
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2016 | 07:11 AM
  #7  
LakelandFordParts's Avatar
LakelandFordParts
Former Vendor
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Definitely keep us updated. It could be the smart junction box on your vehicle, part number 4C7Z15604AC. You're definitely doing the right thing having the system tested before replacing anything. If it is that box consider yourself lucky because Ford currently has quite a few backorder issues with parts like this but the one for the Excursion is readily available.
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2016 | 07:24 PM
  #8  
Hasbro61's Avatar
Hasbro61
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: oklahoma
Originally Posted by LakelandFordParts
Definitely keep us updated. It could be the smart junction box on your vehicle, part number 4C7Z15604AC. You're definitely doing the right thing having the system tested before replacing anything. If it is that box consider yourself lucky because Ford currently has quite a few backorder issues with parts like this but the one for the Excursion is readily available.
Well.... it was the GEM. before it got changed, it burned up two of the new actuators. It's fixed now... about $1k.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-2

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-4

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-8

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 24, 2016 | 09:04 PM
  #9  
Mikes67F250's Avatar
Mikes67F250
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
From: Wayland, Iowa
Another door lock curse

Mine did the same thing last week. No locks working. I hear something in the dash like a switch or something. Kind of a click but thats it. So was it the smart junction box that was mentioned with the link provided that you changed and also the actuators? Where did you get all of your items. THanks!!!!!
 
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2016 | 06:19 AM
  #10  
Hasbro61's Avatar
Hasbro61
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: oklahoma
Originally Posted by Mikes67F250
Mine did the same thing last week. No locks working. I hear something in the dash like a switch or something. Kind of a click but thats it. So was it the smart junction box that was mentioned with the link provided that you changed and also the actuators? Where did you get all of your items. THanks!!!!!
Mine was the GEM module... I'm not sure what the smart junction box is. I wound up taking mine to an auto electric repair shop to have the work done.
 
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2016 | 07:17 AM
  #11  
LakelandFordParts's Avatar
LakelandFordParts
Former Vendor
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Hasbro61
Well.... it was the GEM. before it got changed, it burned up two of the new actuators. It's fixed now... about $1k.
Originally Posted by Hasbro61
Mine was the GEM module... I'm not sure what the smart junction box is. I wound up taking mine to an auto electric repair shop to have the work done.
The SJB typically operates the door lock/security system/other electrical components and some vehicles SJB contain fuses, it is typically located in the passenger compartment/dash. The SJB has replaced GEM modules on newer vehicles but some vehicles like the Excursion have both. According to Ford the GEM module (part number 3C3Z14B205AA in the 2002 Excursion) is a "general electric module," and it operates various electrical systems in the vehicle, also typically located in the dash. I found a bit more detailed explanation on GEM modules here: https://moduleexperts.com/gem-module...FYM6gQodnMcAvA
 
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2016 | 08:40 AM
  #12  
Mikes67F250's Avatar
Mikes67F250
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
From: Wayland, Iowa
I will have to look into this further as know I am recalling that just before the door locks quit working the radio and interior and possibly headlights were doing some weird things. with one thing on the radio would work and if it was not on radio dimmer would blackout completely. It was almost as if ET was in my damn truck LOL. I have a 2005 Excursion XLT V-10 gas. Anyone have some input what may be going on here??? Sure would appreciate it as I would be fixing this myself.
 
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2016 | 08:46 AM
  #13  
Mikes67F250's Avatar
Mikes67F250
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
From: Wayland, Iowa
The weird things gong on only happened for about 30 seconds then stopped with everything working like it should except now the door locks don't work.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Chuggybear
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator
4
Dec 27, 2011 08:03 AM
forder1000
1997 - 2003 F150
2
Sep 1, 2008 09:57 PM
93F250
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
3
Jul 26, 2007 07:54 PM
93F250
Excursion - King of SUVs
6
Jul 24, 2007 07:49 PM
frazier23727
1997 - 2003 F150
6
Jun 5, 2004 09:02 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:11 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-3
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE