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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Front axle seal question

Well I was under the excursion yesterday just doing a good look over and greasing on it and noticed I had a couple seals bad on passenger side. I also had some movement in the outer axle shaft that was a little more than I think it's acceptable. Looks like the inner hub seal that's on the axle shaft is bad. The needle bearings look to be in good shape it's just the pressed on axle shaft seal. Is this something that is a dealer only item or can I get it at a parts store? How much am I looking at these costing?
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 12:35 PM
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Your description leaves me a bit confused as to which seal you are talking about, but regardless all of them are widely avaialbe Spicer parts.
Ebay, rockauto, Amazon, Napa, autozone ect
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 12:37 PM
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:05 PM
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I'm mainly after the one that gets pressed on to the outer axle shaft. How much movement up and down should the outer stub shaft have if any at all? This is all on the shaft that goes thru the wheel hub.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:07 PM
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The outer seal is more of a dust shield. There are real seals inside the axle tube that hold in the 75W90 gear oil. Some movement up and down is fine.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:23 PM
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What about the one that is on inside of knuckle? That is where most of my movement is.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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This one as shown by Guzzle?
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:35 PM
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Your axle shaft is comprised of 2 parts
The inner axle shaft and the stub shaft.

The stub shaft is the one you are talking about.

The stub shaft is located in the hub on the outside end by the locking hub splines and on the inside by both the needle bearings and the vacuum seal.

When everything is in good working order the stub shaft does havea little bit of wiggle to it, when you loose the vacuum seal it will have some play, when the seal and needle bearing go then it gets downright sloppy. Sorry I don't have an actual measurement for you. Best bet is to just take it apart and replace the worn out parts
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:44 PM
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What about the one that is on inside of knuckle? That is where most of my movement is.
The inner axle is held in place at the the differential end by the spider gears, then the inner axle seal and out the end by the seal. Without the outer dust seal in place there will be considerable movement as the axle is now using the inner axle seal as a fulcrum or pivot point ( soon to ruin the seal )

Again I don't have an actual measurement, I just use my eyecrometer.

If gear oil isn't leaking out of the axle tube at the "C" yoke then I'd just replace the out axle seal. The inner seal requires removing the differential
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:48 PM
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Ok thanks all for the help. Looks like its the vacuum seal that is bad on mine. Needle bearing looks good. Do i need any special tools to remove the old seal off the stub shaft or to install them? I know i had to do some prying on it to get it out of the knuckle.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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Yes, here is a video showing a couple of improvised tools.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 05:09 PM
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I got a little leak on mine also on the passenger side. I will be keeping a close eye on this thread.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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Is there any tricks to getting old seal off? I know it's pressed on but trying find a way to get it off without a press
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 07:08 PM
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your going to want/need a press to put it back together so you may as well find or get one to take it apart.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 08:16 PM
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Either this Lisle tool or the OTC will work. About $70.

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