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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Low fuel pressure

I have a 2015 f350 dually 6.7 that has left me stranded 5 times due to a low fuel pressure problem. Dealer claims that it is fixed, but a week or 2 goes by and once again I'm stranded in limp mode. Each time before it breaks down there is a low pitch whine coming from the water separator area. Any ideas? I guess I need to start the lemon law process.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rvtec
I have a 2015 f350 dually 6.7 that has left me stranded 5 times due to a low fuel pressure problem. Dealer claims that it is fixed, but a week or 2 goes by and once again I'm stranded in limp mode. Each time before it breaks down there is a low pitch whine coming from the water separator area. Any ideas? I guess I need to start the lemon law process.
Complete fuel system replacement!!!!! That what they "said" my '15 would take..............traded it for a '16 that has been flawless!
Go for the lemon law, if you can.
Good luck
 
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 04:01 PM
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On my 14 I replaced two low pressure pumps. The next time my low pressure light came on I knew it couldn't be the pump, it had to be something in the tank. After begging the dealer to drop the tank, they found the sender assembly screen had become detatched causing a blockage. They removed tank, installed new sending unit and it's been great since. I replaced the low pressure pump myself, its really easy takes about an hour. I actually carry a spare pump in the truck. You can buy the Motorcraft pumps on Amazon for $230. When is the last time fuel filters were replaced? If they were just done, maybe the bottom of the frame mounted filter is loose. Maybe the green gasket is twisted and not sealing right.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 07:08 AM
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Another common culprit is the cardboard top on additive bottles. If not careful when adding, they have been known to stick to the top of the bottle, and then fall into the tank and cause intermittent low pressure issues and starving the low pressure pump. It gets missed a lot and can only be found by dropping the tank and pulling the sending unit out.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by EO2SeaBee
Another common culprit is the cardboard top on additive bottles. If not careful when adding, they have been known to stick to the top of the bottle, and then fall into the tank and cause intermittent low pressure issues and starving the low pressure pump. It gets missed a lot and can only be found by dropping the tank and pulling the sending unit out.
This is really a good point and very easy to do. In my experience, when I open a fresh bottle, the cardboard from the PM22 stays in the black cap. Each bottle that I use treats 5 tanks of fuel. Around the third tank, I un-screw the cap and the cardboard disk is sitting on top of the bottle, ready to fall into the tank. So easy to do.

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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 01:24 PM
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yep. that's why I pry them out as soon as I open a new bottle. I use standadyne, and usually buy 4-6 bottles, and a case of half gallons, and then keep refilling the bottles. those cardboards as the first thing to go.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 02:16 PM
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Without the cardboard disk, the bottle leaks some when it sits in the rear passenger door. I keep a box of 1 gallon zip lock bags in the truck to clean-up after my 9 pound dog. The one gallon zip lock bag holds the PM-22 bottle perfectly and captures any small spills.

My 9 pound dog does not tend to poop out a gallon of goodness, my hands fit better in this size bag than the sandwich sized zip lock bags.

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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 07:12 PM
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Truck got towed to dealer today. On the frist service they replaced the pump/water separator, 2nd time they replaced fuel line, 3rd trip sending unit got replaced and tank and other areas checked for debre metal shavings ect, 4th time fuel lines again, that was 2 weeks ago.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 07:13 PM
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Dealer also replaced fuel filters 2 weeks ago. Have never had any water drain out of the water separator.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by EO2SeaBee
Another common culprit is the cardboard top on additive bottles. If not careful when adding, they have been known to stick to the top of the bottle, and then fall into the tank and cause intermittent low pressure issues and starving the low pressure pump. It gets missed a lot and can only be found by dropping the tank and pulling the sending unit out.
Well E02seabee called it. They found the cardboard top in the tank. Go course ford won't cover it, so dealer is hitting me with a $1,233.45 bill.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by my_crib_too
Without the cardboard disk, the bottle leaks some when it sits in the rear passenger door.

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bruce...
Bruce,

I agree. I keep a 5 gallon bucket with a lid in my bed with 6 bottles, along with jumper cables, tie-downs, etc. I used to keep my bottles in the rear door pockets, until I saw those spills too.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 05:14 AM
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Well E02seabee called it. They found the cardboard top in the tank. Go course ford won't cover it, so dealer is hitting me with a $1,233.45 bill.
I could be wrong, but your response to that bill could be "no thanks, just put all my original fuel system parts back on the truck. The only thing you will bill me for are shop hours."
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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Well E02seabee called it. They found the cardboard top in the tank. Go course ford won't cover it, so dealer is hitting me with a $1,233.45 bill.
RVTEC,

I got to ask - what did you end up doing...I just got the phone call, after asking them to look for the cardboard in the fuel tank as suggested via this thread, that they found the same thing! Told me the approx. bill due to labor right now, and I don't understand how warranty is not covering it - especially since the fuel additive is listed as proper maintenance in the owners manual.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 02:50 PM
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RVTEC,

I got to ask - what did you end up doing...I just got the phone call, after asking them to look for the cardboard in the fuel tank as suggested via this thread, that they found the same thing! Told me the approx. bill due to labor right now, and I don't understand how warranty is not covering it - especially since the fuel additive is listed as proper maintenance in the owners manual.
There is a failure here that isn't the end user's fault - but for a minute I'm going to play devil's advocate here.

I missed the part about proper maintenance being to put the cardboard circle in the tank.

Now if the dealer ever added the additive to your tank - you have a case against the dealer.

The part of the Ford that markets/makes the additive could potentially be liable, but that is going to be tough to get them to cover it.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2016 | 12:28 AM
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To reduce the chance of the cardboard from the PM 22 cap falling into the tank I pour the additive into a measuring cup. Yes another step I know but I've done this procedure for filling my diesels with fuel additive the last 20 years.
 
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