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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 07:52 AM
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Has anyone negotiated a price for the extended service plan when ordering a 2017 Super Duty?
If so how much can I expect to have to pay?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 10:45 AM
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Has anyone negotiated a price for the extended service plan when ordering a 2017 Super Duty?
If so how much can I expect to have to pay?
Depends on the plan and how much you want to cover. Talk to your dealer for best description. They have a brochure which will spell out what is covered. More importantly, read between the lines for what is not covered. We have more than exceeded our extended warranty plans on our last 2 vehicles. Due to the high cost of any repair, especially the high tech items I would not buy a vehicle without one at some level, as much as I despise having to pay for protection. But then again, insurance is about the same thing.
 
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Thanks for the reply. My Ford dealer just told me $3500 for the Premium ESP 8yr 125000mi $100 deductible.
What do you experienced Ford guys think?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 11:03 AM
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The 6.7 has 100k warranty. Everything else is much shorter. A failed transmission would cost more than the plan. A/C compressor and service is around $1800. Bad window motor $500. Dash board failure, who knows? Electric seat motor $400. Electric window actuator $400. Get the idea? It costs $125 just to drive through the service door. Plus the plan gives you a vehicle to use if yours is tied up. I am not trying to sell the plan but having gone through numerous repairs on a past car all of these inconveniences are somewhat diminished by not having to take a suitcase full of money to have fixed. Best scenario would be no repairs and lots of people get away just that. But read some of the other forums about repairs and you will get a feeling for what it is like without some kind of coverage. There used to be a guy down on the street corner to pay for protection. Now every manufacturer and retailer are hawking the same thing.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 11:09 AM
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$3500 sounds pretty high to me. If you assume 20% profit, Ford is assuming an average of $2800 of repairs between 36,000 miles and 125,000 miles? I hope the trucks are more reliable than that! I would think that at most 5% of the trucks would have a major (or multiple significant) failures in this window.

At this price, I think that those who can afford to take the risk should.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 11:13 AM
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Consumer Reports generally recommends against extended warranties. Here is an article from their web site: Are Extended Warranties For Cars Worth It - Consumer Reports
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 12:43 PM
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FloodFordESP has been recommended a lot. I have not used them. Worth looking at them.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 12:54 PM
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If you say NO on ALL extended warranties over your life, you will come out ahead big time. But I'm a gambler, know the odds are in my favor, and have cash in bank for a rainy day.
 
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I'm not passing judgement on FloodFordESP but I wanted to suggest that any third party extended warranty be carefully considered (Flood's warranty appears to be backed by Ford, so I don't call that a 3rd party warranty). I bought a third party warranty on a 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan. I had little confidence in Dodge reliability but my wife wanted THAT vehicle. The company I bought the extended warranty from went belly up before the basic OEM warranty was ever up. $1200 down the drain.

At the very least, if I wanted an extended warranty, I would shop around for a warranty backed by Ford. Check FloodFordESP's price and then see what your local dealer can do to match.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 02:06 PM
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I've read on these forums about the ESPs being purchased just before the 3/36 factory bumper to bumper is up. That is possible?... Or Advisable? I didn't realized you could purchase an ESP with so many miles on the vehicle. What do you guys recommend?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 03:49 PM
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Well so far with some online looking I have found
Andersonandkock---------$3245
Zeigler --------------------------$3260
FloodFord----------------------$2960

Have not spoken to a person just looking online.
2017 F350 Diesel
$100 deductible 8yr 125000 mi.

Would anyone recommend any of these?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 05:02 PM
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I don't have a dog in this race (yet). But I do believe that the FloodFord is the Foed ESP.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 06:39 PM
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I'd never do it. If this is what it takes for "reliability," than why not add it right into MSRP. I'm also a gambler on stuff like this. If my window motor fails, pull the door panel and change it yourself. Yeah, if the diesel lunches itself or the tranny junks you're in trouble. But "tech" notwithstanding, these new Super Dutys are the same reliable beasts they've always been.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2016 | 01:04 AM
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A lot depends on the owner I guess. I know a local guy who changes his truck every year because he puts more than 100k in them within this period. I probably do that 100k in 10 years.
The other guy pulls a huge trailer all the time, I will probably tow my trailer once a week, some does not tow at all.

So ESP is not something that is good for everyone, but necessary for some.

The other thing is how much work can you do on your own truck? Some owners cannot even change the oil ( or just lazy to do it ), some can rebuild the alternator in their shed. Like troverman said, small works can be done at home easy, saving huge amount of money ( and time that you don`t have to leave your truck at the dealer for repair ).
 
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I don't think it's a bad investment anymore, but I used to think it was a waste of money. My next vehicle will be covered by a Ford ESP and I'll tailor that plan to my needs and pay appropriately.

If I were to ever own a SD, that would mean that I would be towing very heavy across country or up and down the East Coast. Peace of mind is priceless especially when on vacation. Plus, $3500.00 is what, 5% of the cost of the truck?

Shop around and stick with a Ford ESP.
 
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