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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 11:55 PM
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As far as then what've pressure thing I don't think I would be too concerned. All the diesel generators I have taken care of in my time vent to the atmosphere. No filter, just a hose coming straight off the crank case. This is from the small 175kW up to the larger 2.5MW (32 cylinder) units. The key is just to make sure the hose can't get sealed off for any reason (kinks, plugging, tube collapse, etc.). This would cause a positive pressure to be created, which in turn, at the very least would cause oil to start oozing from places it shouldn't.

The environmental issues aside I don't really see much difference either way, if you want to keep oil out of your intake system then it should be a perfectly feasible way to go. Myself, I have breathed enough crank case fumes to last me a while and don't really want to even get a whiff of them from my truck, so mine will stay as is from the factory.

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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by duck fan
Search some threads and you will see lots of reasons not to use a filter. They are too restrictive. Just vent to atmosphere or leave it stock.
I am also ordering a oil cap that also vents the engine . It has a small check valve inside with a filter on top . Really neat design.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:06 AM
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I think that there is too much thought going into this. Rickster is right on the money. My old Cummins motor on my heavy truck just had a fitting protruding out the top of a valve cover with a "U" pipe attached to it for a vent. That had about a 3/4" hose that went straight down below the engine. The picky guys lengthened that hose so it barely cleared the highway to minimize the oil that built up on the underside of their shiny trucks. It misted the tranny and the rears. If I was to perform that mod I'd just route a hose right off of that doghouse, clear of exhaust parts, to the ground. They do give off a smell like he said and the older the engine (more blow by) the more it smells. As for a vented oil fill cap, that will probably vent you a nice mist, vapors and odor up under your hood.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:15 AM
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To follow up on the tear-down debate - I agree I haven't yet done a tear-down. However... every orifice on the engine or the support systems has been invaded by an inspection camera.

The intercooler is aluminum.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:15 AM
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My final thoughts - I have worked on heavy equipment professionally for 10 years. CAT, John Deere, Komatsu, Volvo, Hitachi, all vent to atmosphere.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 08:46 AM
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My final thoughts - I have worked on heavy equipment professionally for 10 years. CAT, John Deere, Komatsu, Volvo, Hitachi, all vent to atmosphere.
That is very valuable information. I think about what the heavy equipment is intended for, and I compare that with how I drive to work, near home, and in the big city. One thing sticks out in my my mind - I once needed a tweak to my idle tuning and it was stinking everybody out in heavy traffic. When I have the VCs off and the engine running, I'm grateful I don't have to smell that all the time.

As our friend Osmond4X4 has pointed out - it's a personal preference. If the only argument for doing the mod is because one doesn't like the way the oil looks in the intake - then I say I'd stop looking in there. I don't like how the toilet looks after I sit atop it, but I'm not going to vent it to air.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 09:05 AM
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I don't like how the toilet looks after I sit atop it, but I'm not going to vent it to air.
Then don't look at it!!
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
That is very valuable information. I think about what the heavy equipment is intended for, and I compare that with how I drive to work, near home, and in the big city. One thing sticks out in my my mind - I once needed a tweak to my idle tuning and it was stinking everybody out in heavy traffic. When I have the VCs off and the engine running, I'm grateful I don't have to smell that all the time.

As our friend Osmond4X4 has pointed out - it's a personal preference. If the only argument for doing the mod is because one doesn't like the way the oil looks in the intake - then I say I'd stop looking in there. I don't like how the toilet looks after I sit atop it, but I'm not going to vent it to air.
True sounds like a far cry from Osmond, WY

We do things a lil different out here in the sticks
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 01:44 PM
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I used the riffraff vent to atmosphere kit for a while and hated it. You could see the blow-by coming out in some circumstances and smell it more often. It got too much attention during a smog test once, but he couldn't find where it was routed and I passed that time. (Nothing wrong with the riffraff kit, if you want to vent to atmosphere, but doing that isn't a great solution)

I pulled it off and went to a proper closed loop separator that routes the separated oil into a catch can that I can drain at intervals:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post15396386
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 02:04 PM
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[QUOTE=Tugly;16351882]To follow up on the tear-down debate - I agree I haven't yet done a tear-down. However... every orifice on the engine or the support systems has been invaded by an inspection camera.

The guy that does my Colonoscopy would call that a Tear-Down.....
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 03:12 PM
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Nope, as Pocket stated, It's doing what it's supposed to, Reburning the Blowby.....Some folks are slightly retentive and can't stand the thought of messing up their shiny new turbo wheel and bypass it. Oh, and that part is commonly referred to as the "Doghouse" Carry on......
More commonly, the "Doghouse", is the interior engine cover on an E series.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by coax9952

The guy that does my Colonoscopy would call that a Tear-Down.....
The guy that does your colonoscopy would be wrong too.

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Old Jun 12, 2016 | 11:07 PM
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The guy that does your colonoscopy would be wrong too.

Stewart

Hell, He doesn't care, he gets paid either way......

Oh well, back to our regular programming.....
 
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 01:09 AM
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Hell, He doesn't care, he gets paid either way....
Heckuva lot better than doing it for free.

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Then don't look at it!!
That's exactly my point - it's the fastest fix.
 
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