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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 10:26 AM
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Electical...amps vs volts

Something to think about.


Is 30 amp service 110 volts or 220V?


What about 50 amp service? 110 or 220V?


Was thinking about this as we are going out to Wyo in August and will park the 5th wheel at my Uncles. He has 50 amp 220V beside the house. Got to thinking about it. Each leg of the plug is 110 and then you have the ground. OR it should be wired that way in each 5th wheel.


Am I right?
 
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Your 5er is 110/115volts and 30 or 50AMP service. Yours is newer so prob 50 AMP. But it is still 110/115volts. DO NOT plug into a 220v service.... you will be replacing a LOT of ac driven equipment!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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50 amp service. Would this not seem to indicate I could run 220/240?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 02:28 PM
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It would NOT! Believe me, you should ONLY run 110/115 v into your RV. Call/text/email your rv manufacturer!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 02:57 PM
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I think you are right. The surge protector maybe able to run on it..but the wiring in the 5th wheel is not.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 03:27 PM
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a friend install an outlet for his New Georgetown ,,, wired it for 220..

you do not want to know the amount of damage that caused.

50 amp "RV" service is 2 branches of 120 volts at 25 amp each. mainly for 2 A/C units or big microwave and toaster oven.
30 amp "RV" service is 1 branch of 120 volts at 30 amps.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 03:35 PM
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120-125 volts for each leg. I think that is where the confusion is.

I sent my uncle a picture of a 50 amp rv outlet. Will see what he comes back with.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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I think you are right. The surge protector maybe able to run on it..but the wiring in the 5th wheel is not.
A friend of mine learned that last year when we were in Ireland. She thought that plugging her hair dryer into a 220v outlet via a cheap converter would be ok, the sound it made when she turned it on was classic. Needless to say, the 110v hair dryer did not come home.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 06:14 PM
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RV connection has two 120 volts legs, a neutral, and a ground.

Steve
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 06:38 PM
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A friend plugged into a 50a campground circuit that had been wired wrong as 220v. Big expense. Sure did mess up his vacation. The campground did finally wind up paying his repair bill. Not cheap.
 
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I actually was working on a 5th wheel with electrical problems and the owner had his buddies who were licensed electricians wire up 240. I came back the next day and rewired from the breaker box in the building out to the camper.

Some times it smokes a lot of stuff. Other times it doesn't do much damage at all.

As I a, sure everyone knows you have two 50-amp 120-volt circuits in the box so you can find 240 volts with your meter at the two 50-amp legs in. 30-amp systems really are on the skimpy side if you want to have everything on electric at the same time and it can be hard to rewire to a 50-amp system as often you have mulitple components on the same circuits so you can not simply split the components at the box without running new wiring.

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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 07:32 PM
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I think that is the story here with the Uncle. He says 240 but it is really not. he confirmed that it has the 50 amp connection. I sent him a picture of one. Responded back that it has a 60 amp circuit breaker in it now.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 07:44 PM
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Probably a 50 would be better, but he still has the fifties in the box so all that is not protected at 50 is his shoreline.

Favorite story. I was on a service call as owner complained some of his systems were not working. I found almost nothing through one 50 amp leg. Called campground owner who came over and was shaking the dirt out of the breaker in the pedestal. Asked what he was doing. He told me every year the river at the campground floods and covers over all the pedestals in the lower level of the campground. They just leave em and fix em when someone complains. Long service call for nothing!

Steve
 
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Sounds like hooking up the voltmeter before connecting to a strange shore power is good insurance.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2016 | 04:49 AM
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The most common problem I see is on the 30 amp receptacles where someone wires them like they are wiring for a welder rather than an RV. With the 50s, it is harder to mess up.
 
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