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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron_Jones
I really appreciate all of you guys help.

I do not have any issues with the trans at all. I will go ahead and flush and fill the tranny asap. Next will be those pesky Spark Plugs... I think I will have a professional do them first.
Make sure you ask for the old ones back!!!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 04:54 PM
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Make sure you ask for the old ones back!!!
Just curious, what would be the purpose of getting the old ones back?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron_Jones
Just curious, what would be the purpose of getting the old ones back?
Ensures that he did all ten of them, even those hard to reach rear ones.
If you have a shop do then have a conversation with then first, make sure they are fully aware of the proper procedure to prevent or reduce the chances of a future blowout.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WE3ZS
Ensures that he did all ten of them, even those hard to reach rear ones.
If you have a shop do then have a conversation with then first, make sure they are fully aware of the proper procedure to prevent or reduce the chances of a future blowout.
Got it! Awesome information... I will do that.

Is there a video or something that I can read or watch that will explain the procedure of preventing or reducing blowout?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 05:11 PM
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Ok, so I just called Valvoline Oil change and asked them about their Transmission change procedure. He said they pull the drain plug and drain the pan then insert a tube to suck out the rest of the contaminants including metal shavings and so on. Then they begin to fill and have you start the vehicle so that they can drain and fill all of the coolant link and torque converter as well.

Just wanted to post this in case it does not sound right. After reading post here about how to effectively change Trans fluid that was my concern is that they flush and change it all not just what is in the pan...
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 06:12 PM
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Follow the procedure that Mark gave in post #11, it's pretty simple and gets the job done right. Apocalypse is right about cleaning the pan. Your transmission will thank you.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 07:49 PM
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Well, I posted this on my way to Valvoline to get my oil changed. I actually look foward to changing my oil. I was about 100 miles early, but I figured I might as well get it done now while I have the time. While I was there I had them Flush the trans as well.


So my next concern is the radiator. On my 05 Escalade ESV I had the Trans rebuilt and when that was done it exposed an issue with my radiator. I guess when they blew the all the trans oil out of the coolant lines it affected the old walls in the radiator. Shortly after I was broke down on the E-way looking at oil and coolant mixed thinking it was my engine oil at first look. Come to find out from the repair service it was the trans oil and my engine was perfectly fine. How do I determine if the walls on the radiator are good or bad? Is that possible?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron_Jones
Just wanted to post this in case it does not sound right.
The method you say the Valvoline place uses is basically the same way Mark's method uses.

Originally Posted by Aaron_Jones
So my next concern is the radiator. On my 05 Escalade ESV I had the Trans rebuilt and when that was done it exposed an issue with my radiator. I guess when they blew the all the trans oil out of the coolant lines it affected the old walls in the radiator. Shortly after I was broke down on the E-way looking at oil and coolant mixed thinking it was my engine oil at first look. Come to find out from the repair service it was the trans oil and my engine was perfectly fine. How do I determine if the walls on the radiator are good or bad? Is that possible?
This can't happen with our radiators because they are tube and fin. There's no way for the trans fluid and coolant to mix.

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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 04:15 AM
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The method you say the Valvoline place uses is basically the same way Mark's method uses.
Awesome! I don't have time nor am I setup to perform this task. I was able to have them do it for $110. Their regular price is $150.

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This can't happen with our radiators because they are tube and fin. There's no way for the trans fluid and coolant to mix.

Stewart
Another great reason to love my Ford ! You can dispute gas milage, but I will say I'll take that all day long with this freakin tank. Not as many things to worry about and it is a tuff sob.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
This can't happen with our radiators because they are tube and fin. There's no way for the trans fluid and coolant to mix.
I'm not sure that's correct for the OP's Excursion. I remember Mark and I had this conversation a few years ago when I had mine, and IIRC starting in 2001 they got in-tank coolers in the radiators in addition to the external one.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
This can't happen with our radiators because they are tube and fin. There's no way for the trans fluid and coolant to mix.
Unfortunately this isn't true for all trucks. It was true from the start of 1999 Superduty until February, 2000. Then Ford added the radiator cooler. Many earlier trucks were retrofitted with a radiator with a cooler, too.

All 2002 model Superdutys have a cooler in the radiator. It is possible for the cooler to fail and mix trans fluid and coolant. It's unusual, but it can happen.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron_Jones
Awesome! I don't have time nor am I setup to perform this task. I was able to have them do it for $110. Their regular price is $150.
They must get the fluid cheap because it cost me more than $110 to change 19 quarts myself at home yesterday.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ExxWhy
They must get the fluid cheap because it cost me more than $110 to change 19 quarts myself at home yesterday.
I remember them saying that my truck takes 37.5 pints as they were refilling gradually. I'm sure they buy in bulk. They discount trans service to get customers in the door in hopes that they will partake in the other services as well. Regularly it is $150 for the service.

Next time I go in it is time to do all 3 diff's. They have a special for buy 2 get the third one free. It cost $59 for one. So $120 I get all three done. And the last fluid that I can think of will be to flush and fill the coolant. Last time I did this on my Escalade the next day my top coolant hose busted on me. So I will be on top of this one and have both top and bottom hoses ready to be changed considering the milage and the age of the truck.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 09:07 AM
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They must get the fluid cheap because it cost me more than $110 to change 19 quarts myself at home yesterday.
I used to own a repair shop. If you buy fluid in 55 gallon barrels it's MUCH cheaper than buying bottles. If you install tanks and have a tanker deliver fluid you can get the cost for name brand, high end fluid to under $2/quart.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2016 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I'm not sure that's correct for the OP's Excursion. I remember Mark and I had this conversation a few years ago when I had mine, and IIRC starting in 2001 they got in-tank coolers in the radiators in addition to the external one.
Yes, I am aware, but....

Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Unfortunately this isn't true for all trucks. It was true from the start of 1999 Superduty until February, 2000. Then Ford added the radiator cooler. Many earlier trucks were retrofitted with a radiator with a cooler, too.

All 2002 model Superdutys have a cooler in the radiator. It is possible for the cooler to fail and mix trans fluid and coolant. It's unusual, but it can happen.
...Mark, with the way the radiator is constructed, it's not like there are two holding tanks separated by a single wall/barrier, so I'm confused. Even with a pinhole leak in both coolant and trans fluid tubes, with both under pressure (unless on a cold engine of course), how would they mix?

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