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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 11:49 AM
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Ignore the Egr, I've never had one on my fords that worked and I block em all off anyway, nothin but a headache to me, and it really doesn't offer as much benefit as people think. What's the truck were working on? I'd test the IAC and the Tps first and take it from there and work your way across all of them. Does it only stall when driving it and gassing it? Or all the time
I bought a gasket for the egr today so at least there isnt a leak. I didnt test either sensors but i ordered the both of them and will be installing them today... I also to the tb off and am going to clean it off and put a new gasket on. Its a 1993 f150 4x4 4.9l
 
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jagesage
And if you're getting pinging you may want to check your timing and maybe throw some fuel additive in it. I've never known an egr valve to cause pinging on an older vehicle.
Not exactly sure what pinging sounds like but i havent noticed any strange sounds or anything since ive owned it...
 
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Old Jun 4, 2016 | 06:40 PM
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Not exactly sure what pinging sounds like but i havent noticed any strange sounds or anything since ive owned it...
--Fixed!!-- Alright i found out the TPS was bad, so now it idles and drives like before. But im still stuck with the rough idle.... Any thoughts?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 12:12 PM
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--Fixed!!-- Alright i found out the TPS was bad, so now it idles and drives like before. But im still stuck with the rough idle.... Any thoughts?
Can anyone tell me where i should start?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Thedonk

Can anyone tell me where i should start?
How old are plugs, wires, cap & rotor?

Same for air and fuel filters.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 06:07 PM
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--Fixed!!-- Alright i found out the TPS was bad, so now it idles and drives like before. But im still stuck with the rough idle.... Any thoughts?
Glad to see you found it. My money was on an IAC issue but we have to cover all the bases. All part of the diagnosis process.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 08:53 PM
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How old are plugs, wires, cap & rotor?

Same for air and fuel filters.
All are basically brand new. The only thing i was thinking of was maybe check the gap on the sparkplugs. Air filter i just cleaned and fuel filter is brand new. And yeah im very releaved it was just the tps lol
 
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 09:35 PM
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So after reading around. I found that my truck is suposed to idle at about 500-750 rpm but it idles at about 850-900. I supose that is because of the egr delete situation?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedonk
So after reading around. I found that my truck is suposed to idle at about 500-750 rpm but it idles at about 850-900.
Was it idling high before you swapped in a new TPS?


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I supose that is because of the egr delete situation?
No, not necessarily. If done correctly eliminating the EGR has zero effect on the idle RPM. If done wrong there may be an open vacuum line.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
Was it idling high before you swapped in a new TPS?




No, not necessarily. If done correctly eliminating the EGR has zero effect on the idle RPM. If done wrong there may be an open vacuum line.
Yeah as far back i remember its always idled at about 900 rpm. Where should i check for vacuum lines? Any vacuum lines ive ever seen disconected i have check to see if the mess with engine in any way shape or form... But where should i start?
 
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Make sure all of the disconnected emission items that rely on vacuum are capped off. Inspect all throttlebody, intake manifold gaskets for signs of leaks. Spraying carb. cleaner tends to yield poor results. A recent post here on the subject stated they used a home made smoke machine. It revealed the intake manifold had numerous leaks that did pass the spray test but failed the smoke.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
Make sure all of the disconnected emission items that rely on vacuum are capped off. Inspect all throttlebody, intake manifold gaskets for signs of leaks. Spraying carb. cleaner tends to yield poor results. A recent post here on the subject stated they used a home made smoke machine. It revealed the intake manifold had numerous leaks that did pass the spray test but failed the smoke.
I just put a new tb gasket on. Since i was already in there i cleaned as much as i could out of the throttle body and intake ports. I will have to try the smoke test. Exept maybe i use a my buddy's vape lol
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 05:01 PM
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So i checked and i didnt see any vacuum lines that werent plugged, except for one but i stopped it with my finged and nothing happened. Just curious. Could this be a bad pcv valve? Maybe it is stuck closed??? Ive never understood how the pcv valve worked until two google searches ago... What do u think?
 
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So i checked and i didnt see any vacuum lines that werent plugged, except for one but i stopped it with my finged and nothing happened. Just curious. Could this be a bad pcv valve? Maybe it is stuck closed??? Ive never understood how the pcv valve worked until two google searches ago... What do u think?
When you put your finger on the open port did you feel vacuum? If so, cap it off.

Your symptoms are not indicative of a stuck or plugged PCV.

Another simple test. Unplug and cap off every vacuum port on engine except one port. Run a temporary line to the MAP sensor. Start the truck, see if the idle RPM returns to normal. If it does your issue is external to the engine. If not your issue is on the engine.

These 4.9L engines are known for hidden vacuum leaks on that long intake manifold. Also never discount those aged vinyl vacuum lines. Small cracks along the length of them contribute to vacuum leaks. As a preventative measure I suggest you replace them.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2016 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
When you put your finger on the open port did you feel vacuum? If so, cap it off.

Your symptoms are not indicative of a stuck or plugged PCV.

Another simple test. Unplug and cap off every vacuum port on engine except one port. Run a temporary line to the MAP sensor. Start the truck, see if the idle RPM returns to normal. If it does your issue is external to the engine. If not your issue is on the engine.

These 4.9L engines are known for hidden vacuum leaks on that long intake manifold. Also never discount those aged vinyl vacuum lines. Small cracks along the length of them contribute to vacuum leaks. As a preventative measure I suggest you replace them.
I dont have mass air... I have speed density. And yeah i check the pcv and its fine. All the hoses look like they are in very good condition believe it or not... Now i just wait till i do the smoke test. You can do that by blowing smoke out through your brake hose (the hose going from the intake to the master cylinder) right?
 
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