SCT x4 vs. edge evolution
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SCT x4 vs. edge evolution
Hey gents, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with running the SCT canned tunes on their 7.3's. I currently have an edge evolution 2 and it works fairly well for me but I was looking into the SCT X4 for the custom aspect of it. After initial purchase the bank account will need some time to heal before going to innovative diesel tunes. I was wondering if the SCT canned tunes will be any Hotter/better in my truck than the edge ones? Thanks for any input.
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SCT is wierd, from what I have read is the custom tunes for SCT are very costly and every tune is custom. Most people here go with DP Tuner or Hydra.
SCT dealers are working out of their Moms house, in my area. Not saying that it will not workout or that the tunes are bad.
SCT dealers are working out of their Moms house, in my area. Not saying that it will not workout or that the tunes are bad.
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I have looked at everything at this point and I would love to go straight to DP and tell them what I'd like to have, but I'm 19 years old and working on a budget which is why I'm trying to... Shal we say "monitor" my spending and the SCT seemed like something decent to go with that could be customized for the money the tuner itself costs. I appreciate the input. I've read all kinds of guys running them on their 6.0's but it's hard to find info on the 7.3's that might be using them if any are. I did find some here and there and most of it seemed okay and straight forward, guess it's just not that common. It's hard to prioritize when I love my truck so much... But other things are so much more important. Not looking for crazy power, or the stupid smoke show others my age like to put on, I just love the seat of your pants feeling and the benefits of it for towing and drivability. 
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Yes I know, I haven't been on in a while the truck I have is my profile pic. 2000 f-250 ex. Cab short bed lariat. Has egt, boost, and trans. gauges, 6637 intake, AIH delete, 4" turbo- back,did the stupid fuel filter check valve delete thing too cause it was quick while I was replacing filter. I still have the IDI but she's in retirement now.
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I can't tell you what the SCT can tunes are like. I myself plan to get the SCT X4 and getting tunes for the X4 can be downloaded online. There are many different tuners that write tunes that can be downloaded to the SCT X4. The price of tunes are the same price. I myself would rather have a programmer then a chip. Since I will only really need a daily driver and tow tune there is no need to change tunes on the fly for me.
Not many guys are fans of programmer most want chip. But the SCT X4 is a good bang for the buck and you can always download different tunes later.
Not many guys are fans of programmer most want chip. But the SCT X4 is a good bang for the buck and you can always download different tunes later.
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[/QUOTE]But the SCT X4 is a good bang for the buck and you can always download different tunes later.[/QUOTE]
This was the impression I was under too. And if I can find it with a reliable return policy, what do I have to lose? I might just try it and post results.
This was the impression I was under too. And if I can find it with a reliable return policy, what do I have to lose? I might just try it and post results.
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The X4 worked great for the V10 I had. However, when I used it for my 7.3, it didn't read some of the sensors correctly. It led to some head scratching for a few days. You can read about it here - https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-pressure.html. My personal feeling is that if they can't even get the programmer to read the sensors correctly, why would I trust them to write a tune for me.
On a side note, I used the X4 on my V10 for custom tunes from 5Star and was happy with it. However, once I got a Hydra for my 7.3, I realized how much more useful the chip is. It really is a huge upgrade over the tuner for ease of use.
On a side note, I used the X4 on my V10 for custom tunes from 5Star and was happy with it. However, once I got a Hydra for my 7.3, I realized how much more useful the chip is. It really is a huge upgrade over the tuner for ease of use.
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So I went ahead and went out on a limb and ordered the SCT X4 flash tuner for my truck and I must say, I'm fairly pleased. I haven't had any issues with it thus far and I feel like I did my transmission a huge favor in the way the shifts feel. There are less customizable options in the unit itself, but it definitely works better in my opinion. I obviously have no official numbers from the dyno or otherwise, but I truly believe there is a bump in torque that you can feel, there's less smoke, faster turbo spool, less lag, and its much more snappy. It's like it is tailored better to the parameters of the truck. Instead of just pouring on more fuel like the edge, it seems to add other key factors in to make it burn the fuel it gets, rather than just blow it out the pipe. Idles less choppy and quieter too. Time will obviously tell better and I'll go custom when I have the money, but for now it's got my approval.
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The X4 worked great for the V10 I had. However, when I used it for my 7.3, it didn't read some of the sensors correctly. It led to some head scratching for a few days. You can read about it here - https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-pressure.html. My personal feeling is that if they can't even get the programmer to read the sensors correctly, why would I trust them to write a tune for me.
On a side note, I used the X4 on my V10 for custom tunes from 5Star and was happy with it. However, once I got a Hydra for my 7.3, I realized how much more useful the chip is. It really is a huge upgrade over the tuner for ease of use.
On a side note, I used the X4 on my V10 for custom tunes from 5Star and was happy with it. However, once I got a Hydra for my 7.3, I realized how much more useful the chip is. It really is a huge upgrade over the tuner for ease of use.
Last question can you adjust shift points on a X4 for the 7.3 ?
Now as far as tunes for the X4 I have already checked with PHP and Tony Wildman and they both have tunes that can be downloaded to the X4. But for now anything would be better then the stock E99 tunes I have.
So I went ahead and went out on a limb and ordered the SCT X4 flash tuner for my truck and I must say, I'm fairly pleased. I haven't had any issues with it thus far and I feel like I did my transmission a huge favor in the way the shifts feel. There are less customizable options in the unit itself, but it definitely works better in my opinion. I obviously have no official numbers from the dyno or otherwise, but I truly believe there is a bump in torque that you can feel, there's less smoke, faster turbo spool, less lag, and its much more snappy. It's like it is tailored better to the parameters of the truck. Instead of just pouring on more fuel like the edge, it seems to add other key factors in to make it burn the fuel it gets, rather than just blow it out the pipe. Idles less choppy and quieter too. Time will obviously tell better and I'll go custom when I have the money, but for now it's got my approval.
Have you tried to adjust shift points on a X4 for the 7.3 ? Have you also done any data logging with yours?
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Yes I am still fairly pleased with the results. Basically any kind of tuning is night and day from stock in these trucks, but the SCT does what I ask of it. Tows campers and farm tractors flawlessly and cruises the street with ease. I have done a little datalogging with it, but I don't really pay much note to a lot of what it reads. I watch my EGT, trans temp, and boost gauges in the pillar and that's about all I need. I have also done some slight shift adjusting, but my trans is not built yet and I don't like to get crazy so just 5 or 10% here and there. I know there's better things out there with the chips, but it does what I need it to do in my DD and I'm happy with it.
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Yes I am still fairly pleased with the results. Basically any kind of tuning is night and day from stock in these trucks, but the SCT does what I ask of it. Tows campers and farm tractors flawlessly and cruises the street with ease. I have done a little datalogging with it, but I don't really pay much note to a lot of what it reads. I watch my EGT, trans temp, and boost gauges in the pillar and that's about all I need. I have also done some slight shift adjusting, but my trans is not built yet and I don't like to get crazy so just 5 or 10% here and there. I know there's better things out there with the chips, but it does what I need it to do in my DD and I'm happy with it.
Thanks for your input !!
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Yes I am still fairly pleased with the results. Basically any kind of tuning is night and day from stock in these trucks, but the SCT does what I ask of it. Tows campers and farm tractors flawlessly and cruises the street with ease. I have done a little datalogging with it, but I don't really pay much note to a lot of what it reads. I watch my EGT, trans temp, and boost gauges in the pillar and that's about all I need. I have also done some slight shift adjusting, but my trans is not built yet and I don't like to get crazy so just 5 or 10% here and there. I know there's better things out there with the chips, but it does what I need it to do in my DD and I'm happy with it.