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Old May 15, 2016 | 07:37 PM
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Rough idle

Hi guys. I have an 83 F250 with a 7.5l. I recently had a problem with my fuel pump that I fixed. Now my truck is idling really rough. Stays around 600 rpm and smokes. The smoke is white but it leaves black sut on the ground. When I drive it down the road it runs great but will back fire occasionally when I push in the clutch. Any ideas why it's running rough?
 
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Old May 15, 2016 | 09:46 PM
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White smoke is generally water, the drips on the ground behind the exhaust pipe are the carbon being washed off the exhaust pipes.
 
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Old May 15, 2016 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
White smoke is generally water, the drips on the ground behind the exhaust pipe are the carbon being washed off the exhaust pipes.
It smokes all the time though and it's not running smoothly. It almost feels and acts as if it has a cam in it. Even if I increase the idle it still runs choppy with smoke
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 05:59 AM
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Water doesn't burn.
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 06:01 AM
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Despite the water problem, you say you had a fuel pump problem that you "fixed" but now it runs like crap... nobody can read your mind and we have no idea exactly what you are talking about... what did you do to fix it? Can you un-fix it and see if it runs better?
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 07:38 AM
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White smoke and runs like crap almost sounds like a head gasket.

I would pull the plugS and do a compression check. Also tell use what the plugs look like.
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Old May 16, 2016 | 07:41 AM
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I agree with Chris - white smoke means you have a head gasket leak. You'd better check the coolant level, and run some tests. The best is a leak-down test, which will tell you that you have a leak and where. But, the parts stores should have a strip that you can dip in the radiator and it will tell if you have a head gasket leak.
 
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The parts stores "rent" a cooling system pressure tester that replaces your radiator cap and allows you to find a leak by removing the spark plugs and seeing which cylinder fills with coolant.

It's not too uncommon for 460's to get a crack between the spark plug and exhaust valve seat (I've done it TWICE)
 
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When you say "backfire", is it actually blowing back through the carb or is it popping off in the exhaust?

I ask because IME this will point to either a blown power valve or a sloppy timing chain.
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
When you say "backfire", is it actually blowing back through the carb or is it popping off in the exhaust?

I ask because IME this will point to either a blown power valve or a sloppy timing chain.
It is popping off in the exhaust.
 
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If you make a change, and suddenly something is broken, the most likely cause of that breakage is your change, so change it back to how it was and see if the problem goes away.

Reading another thread of yours, it seems you have jerry-rigged the fuel pump to be powered from the from the defroster-motor circuit.

The blower/defroster motor generally operates on low/medium/high speeds... which makes me wonder if you're feeding full voltage to your fuel pump and if your engine misbehaving isn't because of low fuel pressure or some other electrical anomaly you have introduced into the system via such a jerry-rigged configuration.
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
If you make a change, and suddenly something is broken, the most likely cause of that breakage is your change, so change it back to how it was and see if the problem goes away.

Reading another thread of yours, it seems you have jerry-rigged the fuel pump to be powered from the from the defroster-motor circuit.

The blower/defroster motor generally operates on low/medium/high speeds... which makes me wonder if you're feeding full voltage to your fuel pump and if your engine misbehaving isn't because of low fuel pressure or some other electrical anomaly you have introduced into the system via such a jerry-rigged configuration.
Amen! (That means "It is so!")
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
If you make a change, and suddenly something is broken, the most likely cause of that breakage is your change, so change it back to how it was and see if the problem goes away.

Reading another thread of yours, it seems you have jerry-rigged the fuel pump to be powered from the from the defroster-motor circuit.

The blower/defroster motor generally operates on low/medium/high speeds... which makes me wonder if you're feeding full voltage to your fuel pump and if your engine misbehaving isn't because of low fuel pressure or some other electrical anomaly you have introduced into the system via such a jerry-rigged configuration.
Before I rigged it I ran the fuel pump from a secondary battery and the truck ran the way It does now.
 
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Man, you really need to be clear in what you're trying to describe...

In your first post, you tell us you fixed the fuel pump and now you have a rough idle, leading us to believe one event caused one reaction; you are now telling us you already had a rough idle before rigging the fuel pump and we should ignore your initial description?

In which case, chase the water entering your combustion chambers, water doesn't burn. A leak-down test will reveal worlds of stuff....
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
Man, you really need to be clear in what you're trying to describe...

In your first post, you tell us you fixed the fuel pump and now you have a rough idle, leading us to believe one event caused one reaction; you are now telling us you already had a rough idle before rigging the fuel pump and we should ignore your initial description?

In which case, chase the water entering your combustion chambers, water doesn't burn. A leak-down test will reveal worlds of stuff....
Why do you always give me a hard time on this forum. I'm simply asking for help. If you need more detail or if you have any questions that would In turn help me I would greatly appreciate you doing so in a polite manner. This is the second time on this post that you have been rude. Probably the fourth time overall to me. I'll try the test. Thanks for the positive feedback. Always a pleasure.
 
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