2017 Build & Price....sort of
#61
06-07-2016, 02:30 PM
4 would be an abomination on the current SuperDuties without major modification to the front axle shafts. The single U-Joint current configuration chucks and bucks now in a corner. The shafts would require a cardan (double) with a second u-joint or a standard variety CV joint. Both apply a lot more mass to the driveline but would definitely provide a smoother experience.
#62
06-07-2016, 03:03 PM
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#64
06-07-2016, 03:35 PM
This is from Car and Driver from last year:
"The only Ford pickup with a choice of single or dual rear wheels, the F-350 is available in a range of permutations so you can tailor it to the job at hand. A regular-cab dualie has a maximum payload of 7050 pounds; the F-350 can tow 26,500 pounds when properly equipped. The standard engine is a 385-hp 6.2-liter gas V-8 with 405 lb-ft of torque; a 440-hp 6.7-liter turbodiesel V-8 with 880 lb-ft is optional. A six-speed automatic and rear-wheel drive are standard; all-wheel drive is optional"
I think there are other references to traction control as well which might require this setting. 4A
"The only Ford pickup with a choice of single or dual rear wheels, the F-350 is available in a range of permutations so you can tailor it to the job at hand. A regular-cab dualie has a maximum payload of 7050 pounds; the F-350 can tow 26,500 pounds when properly equipped. The standard engine is a 385-hp 6.2-liter gas V-8 with 405 lb-ft of torque; a 440-hp 6.7-liter turbodiesel V-8 with 880 lb-ft is optional. A six-speed automatic and rear-wheel drive are standard; all-wheel drive is optional"
I think there are other references to traction control as well which might require this setting. 4A
#65
06-07-2016, 03:42 PM
Cargo Master
This is from Car and Driver from last year:
"The only Ford pickup with a choice of single or dual rear wheels, the F-350 is available in a range of permutations so you can tailor it to the job at hand. A regular-cab dualie has a maximum payload of 7050 pounds; the F-350 can tow 26,500 pounds when properly equipped. The standard engine is a 385-hp 6.2-liter gas V-8 with 405 lb-ft of torque; a 440-hp 6.7-liter turbodiesel V-8 with 880 lb-ft is optional. A six-speed automatic and rear-wheel drive are standard; all-wheel drive is optional"
I think there are other references to traction control as well which might require this setting. 4A
"The only Ford pickup with a choice of single or dual rear wheels, the F-350 is available in a range of permutations so you can tailor it to the job at hand. A regular-cab dualie has a maximum payload of 7050 pounds; the F-350 can tow 26,500 pounds when properly equipped. The standard engine is a 385-hp 6.2-liter gas V-8 with 405 lb-ft of torque; a 440-hp 6.7-liter turbodiesel V-8 with 880 lb-ft is optional. A six-speed automatic and rear-wheel drive are standard; all-wheel drive is optional"
I think there are other references to traction control as well which might require this setting. 4A
#68
06-07-2016, 09:37 PM
I do not disagree with your mantra and their ability to recite facts. I merely pointed out the AWD almost a year ago and their reference in relation to the new images shown. We shall see.
#70
06-08-2016, 07:07 AM
If the 14,500 GVWR (surely not payload) is correct, it would surprise me. The 2016 F350 / F450 dually have a GVWR of 14,000. I think that the F450 is rated at "only" 14,000 lbs because of the softer springs they put in it vs the F350 (9100 lb rear vs 9650 lb rear), even though the rear axle is stronger than the one in the F350.
Other than the springs, I think the current F450 is basically the same (structurally) as the CC F450. The brakes are bigger on the CC, but I doubt that is the limiting factor. The 2016 CC F450 has a 16,500 GVWR, which tells me that they have the F450 pickup down at 14,000 to keep it a class 3 truck.
Now, why leave the class 3 truck arena by only 500 lbs? It seems if they want to make the F450 pickup a class 4 truck, go big. Maybe with a 16,500 lb GVWR (12,000 lb rear spring rating), the truck would just ride too rough. A softer spring with air-bags would be sweet though!
Other than the springs, I think the current F450 is basically the same (structurally) as the CC F450. The brakes are bigger on the CC, but I doubt that is the limiting factor. The 2016 CC F450 has a 16,500 GVWR, which tells me that they have the F450 pickup down at 14,000 to keep it a class 3 truck.
Now, why leave the class 3 truck arena by only 500 lbs? It seems if they want to make the F450 pickup a class 4 truck, go big. Maybe with a 16,500 lb GVWR (12,000 lb rear spring rating), the truck would just ride too rough. A softer spring with air-bags would be sweet though!
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06-08-2016, 09:57 AM
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06-08-2016, 09:50 PM
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