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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 07:09 PM
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Denting headers rarely affects performance (unless you really smash em)!

It's a ... They don't fit so you had to beat them into submission ... Thing.

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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 10:30 PM
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I don't have them on my truck, but I've installed a few sets over the years...I've never seen any of the truck headers, pacesetter included, that have your problem. I've seen this very problem on car headers, where space was too tight to allow proper fitment.

The problem is; the primaries do not protrude far enough from the flange before they make their first bend. If you look at the photo of the speed daddy header, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. The bend of the tube is what is wh0ring the install of the bolts....if thats the way theyre making them nowadays, something changed whether they know it or not. It honestly is unacceptable, no way to even torque the bolt.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 08:20 AM
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Thanks for confirming the problem '89f2turd!!

I told the customer service representative the exact same thing.

They are sending me a new header, so I guess I'll have an answer in a few days!

I'll keep this updated.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 09:05 AM
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A solution would be to cut the tubes off at the flange and extend them about 1.5-2" straight off the flange. It'd suck to have to do that, but it's the realistic solution that would make your life easy for re torque and such.

Curious to see how the next header looks, if they're making them like that now....I'm not going to go around touting pacesetters.....
 
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 05:49 PM
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Update...

Pacesetter called me back today. They have worked on the problem and shipping me a new header via UPS today.

They are also picking up the old headers free, at no cost to me.
When they arrive I will take pictures of the headers.

Edit...

If these don't work out, I would like to know what long tube headers they are running for a replacement, on a 302.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 08:38 AM
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Update...

Headers made it in yesterday.

I took pictures of the new headers. I was disappointed that didn't send new bolts and gaskets...

Also, they only had one section of elongated holes for the driver side...not on both sides of the flange like the previous set and even the new passenger side had both sides elongated. Still confused about that.

Here are the header's with modifications.










You can see the added O2 bung. Also, the #6 tube is still about an 1/8" from the 45° spark plug wire.

I explained to them that the #5 & #6 tubes should be brought out another 1/2 - 1" from the flange...

I will say they treated me right. Although, I would hope they would add to research to those 2 areas.

Also, they didn't expedite shipping. I would have thought they would since the header was a defect.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2016 | 08:04 PM
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I'm curious how your header installation went after they modified them? Thanks.

Originally Posted by timbersteel
Update...

Headers made it in yesterday.

I took pictures of the new headers. I was disappointed that didn't send new bolts and gaskets...

Also, they only had one section of elongated holes for the driver side...not on both sides of the flange like the previous set and even the new passenger side had both sides elongated. Still confused about that.

Here are the header's with modifications.










You can see the added O2 bung. Also, the #6 tube is still about an 1/8" from the 45° spark plug wire.

I explained to them that the #5 & #6 tubes should be brought out another 1/2 - 1" from the flange...

I will say they treated me right. Although, I would hope they would add to research to those 2 areas.

Also, they didn't expedite shipping. I would have thought they would since the header was a defect.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2016 | 06:32 PM
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I would get my money back and buy flowtech, you have a lot more patients than me when it comes to bad craftsmanship
 
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Flowmaster headers eh?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2016 | 09:52 PM
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